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longship

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92. Well, I think name calling here of any kind is NG.

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:20 PM

Jun 2013

No matter what your Democratic Party position.

If a DU member disagrees with another, it is childish and immature to call names. Disagreements should be handled by rational and respectful discussion, not by childish and churlish behavior.

I have never been more ashamed of many DUers who I have long respected the past few weeks. Their behavior has been inexcusable and reprehensible. Name calling, thread stalking, troll threads, and other school yard behavior.

I find in this thread a classic example of how a community forum can go all wrong. If one disagrees with another there are ways to argue ones position without bringing personal attacks into it.

I am ashamed of the recent behavior on DU. And if you are paying attention, so should you all.

Stop it, please.

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paulbots. racists. Obama haters. oh my. [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

They must be demonized so Obama continues to appear spotless. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1

too late. nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #21

That is the most irrational and bizarre aspect of the whole mess. bvar22 Jun 2013 #22

Because they know that, no matter what... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #31

They who? Do you believe everything you see on the internet? nt patrice Jun 2013 #105

I don't give a damn who started it or reported it. I care that its happening and roguevalley Jun 2013 #141

Thank You! bvar22 Jun 2013 #145

back at you, darling. Your avatar says it all :D roguevalley Jun 2013 #150

. Iggo Jun 2013 #155

No, they don't know that anymore. See the big coalition of Unions and Liberal groups that formed sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #138

Hope you're right, Sabrina. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #146

It makes sense for some to drive people away from the party... Blanks Jun 2013 #151

Who says all of them are Democrats out to help Democrats? I bet you don't believe everything you see patrice Jun 2013 #104

+1 n2doc Jun 2013 #26

That is exactly it. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #77

They must also be canonized so that Obama continues to appear corrupt. nt patrice Jun 2013 #106

Nobody has to be canonized for that. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #116

Maybe with a howitzer? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #159

"the majority of people"? See, a lot of us have expressed concern about the NSA without trashing KittyWampus Jun 2013 #2

bwahahahaha. YOU? bull. and how about responding to this post, dear? cali Jun 2013 #7

I know you are, but what am I. Meanwhile I'm going back to cocktail hour. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #9

will you ever respond? No, you'll never respond. cali Jun 2013 #16

Run away? You mean like Snowden? Galraedia Jun 2013 #19

WOW! KittyWampus Jun 2013 #46

care to respond to my proof that your bullshit accusations in the other cali Jun 2013 #59

How about disagreeing respectfully? longship Jun 2013 #29

This... Skidmore Jun 2013 #68

Thank you. I appreciate your response. nt longship Jun 2013 #70

Sometimes I agree with you, and sometimes I don't. But every time I see you address someone ... 11 Bravo Jun 2013 #32

Agreed. It's very condescending. There's a way to disagree without disrespect or condescension. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #152

Ah, yes -- your posts are the very quintessence of objectivity . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #49

Because it's easier to dismiss legitimate arguments by associating them with bad people n/t Azathoth Jun 2013 #3

There's your answer. Next question, please. cheapdate Jun 2013 #33

BOTH sides are doing that. nt patrice Jun 2013 #113

... sibelian Jun 2013 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author Maedhros Jun 2013 #153

Meta Queen alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #4

went to the lake for an hour this morning cali Jun 2013 #8

Awesome alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #11

Because to do otherwise is to unravel their entire belief system. The Link Jun 2013 #5

"I know you are, but what am I". KittyWampus Jun 2013 #6

lol. nothing like a little CogDis. cali Jun 2013 #13

My Ex-Wife used to use those exact words in disgreements. Those EXACT words. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #23

LOL! There's a REASON I wrote that childish crap� it's entirely appropriate with Cali's jibberjabber KittyWampus Jun 2013 #126

Drink faster. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #30

why is it so difficult to just add to the already 23 existing posts you made on this particular subj Whisp Jun 2013 #10

Because this isn't being treated like something ELSE we have to fix. The second this shit came uponit7771 Jun 2013 #12

Both sides call names treestar Jun 2013 #14

u criticizing moderate republican policies again lol nt msongs Jun 2013 #15

I believe a few of the Third Wayers here signed up in Paulbotville so they could make a post Zorra Jun 2013 #17

well at least you are consistent. nt sheshe2 Jun 2013 #18

They're here, pretending to be uber liberals...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #20

Indeed flamingdem Jun 2013 #24

hee hee Whisp Jun 2013 #37

Pretending like Greenwald right Sid? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #50

Greenwald's a DUer?... SidDithers Jun 2013 #58

Possibly, but my point is whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #65

True Liberals wouldn't betray the poor the way this bunch is getting ready to in the name of some patrice Jun 2013 #56

OMFG this is hilarious after what people who say anything good DevonRex Jun 2013 #25

Obamabots, Obama Worshippers, irrational/illogical, or what Jane Hampser calls Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #117

Look down thread. My post about GROUPIES has a nice DevonRex Jun 2013 #120

The most insane was when they called Catherina racist. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #27

Why is it so difficult to MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #28

It doesn't toe the party line. obxhead Jun 2013 #34

I believe that Just Saying Jun 2013 #35

Why is it so difficult to believe that many consider Snowden at least question everything Jun 2013 #36

It's not. LWolf Jun 2013 #38

GhostNet Whisp Jun 2013 #40

I wish I had timed how quickly absolutely sickenly sweet hero/saint/martyr pieces started showing patrice Jun 2013 #71

I have no difficulty believing that. And that's fine. But it's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned cali Jun 2013 #41

That's not hard to believe-- it's just completely beside the point. Marr Jun 2013 #44

Regarding smear campaigns: Do you think some leakers could have an interest in leaking in order to patrice Jun 2013 #87

Very well put. Thank you. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #109

Question Everything obxhead Jun 2013 #61

Because a coward would have kept his mouth shut and continued to collect a fat paycheck. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #127

Oh, don't worry-- in a few years we'll all just be misogynists. Marr Jun 2013 #39

Because there is no coherent strategic issue agenda that makes it possible for all of the DU-ers who patrice Jun 2013 #42

Because there is NO SUCH THING jazzimov Jun 2013 #43

+++1 and if you and I are wrong and there actually is, it's PRIVATE EXPONENTIALLY GROWING patrice Jun 2013 #48

Who would've thought? raindaddy Jun 2013 #45

And in light of a Derivative Crash to the tune of something between $100-$700 trillion US dollars + patrice Jun 2013 #52

No doubt he was handed the aftermath of a failed Bush presidency. raindaddy Jun 2013 #67

You appear to be pretty naive about the whole context of political and economic details, most of patrice Jun 2013 #73

Translation.. raindaddy Jun 2013 #80

I don't accept it as the either : or proposition that you sketch. More than 2 things are possible, patrice Jun 2013 #90

We'll never change anything without first being honest with ourselves. raindaddy Jun 2013 #95

Part of that honesty will consist of how the situation HAS prevented that and also how we have patrice Jun 2013 #97

I'm with you, raindaddy. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #147

This is it. kitt6 Jun 2013 #47

Because of stuff like this Progressive dog Jun 2013 #51

Right on! & why, Why WHY do so few people understand that when you remove your support from a patrice Jun 2013 #53

Patrice...what do you think about Penny Pritzger? KoKo Jun 2013 #148

I will read up and speak up here and elsewhere. Thanks for the catch, KoKo. & One thing I have patrice Jun 2013 #149

I'll proudly express concern about the exponentially growing national security state. Sticks/Stones. AAO Jun 2013 #54

What other issues are you willing to sacrifice, & in what order, for success against the EGNSS? patrice Jun 2013 #60

snark AAO Jun 2013 #107

You know, it really is interesting that you seem to think that's a non-serious question. It would patrice Jun 2013 #134

Your question was silly. AAO Jul 2013 #160

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Working on that list, are yuh? ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ I'll check back later. nt patrice Jun 2013 #75

snark AAO Jun 2013 #108

Answer? patrice Jun 2013 #111

I'm going to go pick up my laptop at the mall shortly railsback Jun 2013 #55

Because I don't log out of gmail I just got an ad served to me on DU flamingdem Jun 2013 #57

Are you similarly concerned over "Obamabot" or "Worshipper" or "Apologist" labels? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #62

+ authoritarian flamingdem Jun 2013 #63

What do you want to bet that "reactionary" NEVER trends? nt patrice Jun 2013 #66

Maybe "left reactionary" lol nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #69

I prefer reactionary screamers. It's not a slur. It's literally what they're doing. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #129

Yeah, seeing the usual suspects using that on a lot lately...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #72

What? Surely you jest! Propaganda ONLY comes from Big Brother, not from the Right wing! nt patrice Jun 2013 #74

It always seems to simple to say when Left goes far enough it connects to the Right flamingdem Jun 2013 #84

I think the domain where they meet is Abstraction. I have hopes these days based upon the patrice Jun 2013 #93

Sho' nuff! I've always said that I see little difference between the purists on the Left Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #119

Authoritarian = opposite of Libertarian flamingdem Jun 2013 #83

That's the theory anyway. It's not the way that things actually work out between them though. patrice Jun 2013 #100

Well maybe sometimes it's straight forward flamingdem Jun 2013 #102

Yup, "authoritarian" has replaced the term "third way" as the insult du jour FSogol Jun 2013 #143

Apologist is fair, the other are not. morningfog Jun 2013 #81

You are one who dogs people implying they are evil apologists flamingdem Jun 2013 #85

I find the disingenuousness of posters defending morningfog Jun 2013 #86

That's an over the top attitude for a discussion forum flamingdem Jun 2013 #88

Lol. I should have checked with you on the bounds. morningfog Jun 2013 #91

I'm not even sure why anyone is even entertaining this OP Number23 Jun 2013 #82

She's not nearly the only one. There are others. Then they play the victim when called out... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #121

I know. But DU is the only place these people feel they have some power Number23 Jun 2013 #124

And while I invite criticism that is expressed through sound, reasonable arguments, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #128

That answers MY question CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #122

Don't forget 'GROUPIES!' They love that one. DevonRex Jun 2013 #112

Why does MSNBC give us a weekend of jail? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #64

Well, for starters, since most posts criticizing Obama on the NSA issue are irrational, I guess most stevenleser Jun 2013 #76

you mean, in your ever so exhalted opinion? cali Jun 2013 #78

You've already read my dissertation on this and couldn't refute any of it. I guess that is why you stevenleser Jun 2013 #79

You should run for office, Steve. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #89

Well, I think name calling here of any kind is NG. longship Jun 2013 #92

Am I mistaken? I thought this thread was a little better than so many others . . . patrice Jun 2013 #96

Do you mean other than the fact that the OP was a name calling call out? longship Jun 2013 #98

I took OP as REFERRING to name calling. I like the fact that we are talking about how we talk about patrice Jun 2013 #99

Sorry. But there's a lot of surly call outs through out the thread. longship Jun 2013 #101

I'm generally for having it all out in the open (with the exception of references to violence). What patrice Jun 2013 #110

I agree, mostly. longship Jun 2013 #118

I think it's unfortunate that there are many DU-ers who wouldn't be as far in whatever patrice Jun 2013 #131

BINGO! longship Jun 2013 #132

What do you think about the juries? Do you think they're helping or hurting the current climate? Number23 Jun 2013 #115

Okay, with some reservations. longship Jun 2013 #123

Well said. I personally believe that the jury system is a colossal failure. Number23 Jun 2013 #125

Worse, some DUers are doing what can only be called stalking. longship Jun 2013 #130

I've seen that exact same behavior as the stalking you mentioned Number23 Jun 2013 #137

Of Course, We Should Not be Impugning Each Others' Motives On the Road Jun 2013 #94

Well said. It's not just DU people, I heard a civil rights lawyer speak on this flamingdem Jun 2013 #103

+1 great post treestar Jun 2013 #158

The authoritarian apologists have nothing. They resort to attempts at bullying by name calling. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #133

LOL Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #135

. ProSense Jun 2013 #136

Because if they couldn't go to the ad hom, they'd have to argue the policy, and the policy HiPointDem Jun 2013 #139

thank you ,,, slightly off subject but -- Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #140

Paul Revere heads off to Hong Kong flamingdem Jun 2013 #157

because we are supposed to be cheerleading for "the team" no matter what they do boilerbabe Jun 2013 #144

Don't let the team down! QC Jun 2013 #154

To give the Republicans comfort in seeing us squabble. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #156