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hunter

(40,573 posts)
24. Fuck the spy business...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jun 2013

C.I.A. Vaccine Ruse May Have Harmed the War on Polio

By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: July 9, 2012

Did the killing of Osama bin Laden have an unintended victim: the global drive to eradicate polio?

In Pakistan, where polio has never been eliminated, the C.I.A.’s decision to send a vaccination team into the Bin Laden compound to gather information and DNA samples clearly hurt the national polio drive. The question is: How badly?

After the ruse by Dr. Shakil Afridi was revealed by a British newspaper a year ago, angry villagers, especially in the lawless tribal areas on the Afghan border, chased off legitimate vaccinators, accusing them of being spies.

And then, late last month, Taliban commanders in two districts banned polio vaccination teams, saying they could not operate until the United States ended its drone strikes. One cited Dr. Afridi, who is serving a 33-year sentence imposed by a tribal court, as an example of how the C.I.A. could use the campaign to cover espionage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/cia-vaccine-ruse-in-pakistan-may-have-harmed-polio-fight.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


We don't need spies, we need open channels of communication and trust.

We need a free an uninhibited press.

We need to stop fucking over the rest of the world for natural resources and cheap labor.

Secrets and spying are always corrosive. Them that need to steal or conceal "secrets" have already lost the game.


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Can we all agree that we need spies? [View all] last1standing Jun 2013 OP
I "rec-d" this not because I think we need spies, but we DO need a national reassessment 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #1
Well put /nt think Jun 2013 #2
Thanks for the rec. last1standing Jun 2013 #4
We don't need spies spying on *us* whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #3
I thought I was pretty clear where I was going. last1standing Jun 2013 #6
I'm concerned that we are DEvolving into a sad state 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #12
I think we're there :/ whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #14
Hedges agrees. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15
I agree with you. last1standing Jun 2013 #16
"This is not how life is supposed to be in this country" 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #33
Atlas Shrugged III L0oniX Jun 2013 #27
Should we let all our spies out of prison? Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #5
It's neither and I'm not sure how you got that out of the OP. last1standing Jun 2013 #7
If spies are needed then why is the goverment pissed about people leaking information. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #9
I disagree with that. last1standing Jun 2013 #11
Yes X 4 n/t Just Saying Jun 2013 #8
No. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #10
Ok. Thanks for your opinion. last1standing Jun 2013 #13
Sure. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #22
Here is the thing about spies to keep in mind The Straight Story Jun 2013 #17
Agreed. Sad, isn't it? last1standing Jun 2013 #18
This is DU; we could argue that water is wet. bluedigger Jun 2013 #19
Hey, now . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #34
"I only regret that I have but 4 laptops of classified information to give for my country." Scurrilous Jun 2013 #20
In some places that's worth a Hero medal with four laptop clusters pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #21
No. But I would agree we need more spy thrillers starring Angelie Jolie quinnox Jun 2013 #23
Fuck the spy business... hunter Jun 2013 #24
People who work for the NSA marions ghost Jun 2013 #25
$200K/yr buys NSA a guy with a High School diploma, but not much company loyalty these days. leveymg Jun 2013 #30
They want to hire those who have no problem with marions ghost Jun 2013 #35
Hoover reaches out from the grave to agree. n/t L0oniX Jun 2013 #26
I'm sure spying used to be a lot easier. moondust Jun 2013 #28
You mean the kind that gave Ben Laden $50M in a hosp in Kuwait 6 mos before 911? kickysnana Jun 2013 #29
Perhaps we do need spies but we haven't got any. eomer Jun 2013 #31
According to some DUers apparently not Narkos Jun 2013 #32
Can't we rent 'em when we need 'em? ... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #36
There is a difference between say a spy like Valerie Plame and Autumn Jun 2013 #37
No. LWolf Jun 2013 #38
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