Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Can we all agree that we need spies? [View all]hunter
(40,573 posts)24. Fuck the spy business...
C.I.A. Vaccine Ruse May Have Harmed the War on Polio
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: July 9, 2012
Did the killing of Osama bin Laden have an unintended victim: the global drive to eradicate polio?
In Pakistan, where polio has never been eliminated, the C.I.A.s decision to send a vaccination team into the Bin Laden compound to gather information and DNA samples clearly hurt the national polio drive. The question is: How badly?
After the ruse by Dr. Shakil Afridi was revealed by a British newspaper a year ago, angry villagers, especially in the lawless tribal areas on the Afghan border, chased off legitimate vaccinators, accusing them of being spies.
And then, late last month, Taliban commanders in two districts banned polio vaccination teams, saying they could not operate until the United States ended its drone strikes. One cited Dr. Afridi, who is serving a 33-year sentence imposed by a tribal court, as an example of how the C.I.A. could use the campaign to cover espionage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/cia-vaccine-ruse-in-pakistan-may-have-harmed-polio-fight.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
We don't need spies, we need open channels of communication and trust.
We need a free an uninhibited press.
We need to stop fucking over the rest of the world for natural resources and cheap labor.
Secrets and spying are always corrosive. Them that need to steal or conceal "secrets" have already lost the game.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
38 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
I "rec-d" this not because I think we need spies, but we DO need a national reassessment
99th_Monkey
Jun 2013
#1
If spies are needed then why is the goverment pissed about people leaking information.
Arctic Dave
Jun 2013
#9
"I only regret that I have but 4 laptops of classified information to give for my country."
Scurrilous
Jun 2013
#20
$200K/yr buys NSA a guy with a High School diploma, but not much company loyalty these days.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#30
You mean the kind that gave Ben Laden $50M in a hosp in Kuwait 6 mos before 911?
kickysnana
Jun 2013
#29