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moondust

(20,309 posts)
28. I'm sure spying used to be a lot easier.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jun 2013

Back when it was just nation-states keeping tabs on each other; before cell phones were cheap and ubiquitous and terrorist organizations could easily get their messages out and travel to "enemy" lands or find converts there to blend in with the native population until attack day arrives.

Threats can come from individuals now, not just nation-states. Weapons available to individuals can do a lot of damage. I don't envy anybody charged with preventing serious attacks that could come at any time from almost anyplace.

Much of today's massive spying infrastructure has largely been built up since 9/11 at a time when privacy concerns were not at the top of the agenda. The safeguards probably need a comprehensive review and reconfiguration now that there are significant protections in place and the ongoing issues are better understood. The panic has passed.

Can we all agree that we need spies? [View all] last1standing Jun 2013 OP
I "rec-d" this not because I think we need spies, but we DO need a national reassessment 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #1
Well put /nt think Jun 2013 #2
Thanks for the rec. last1standing Jun 2013 #4
We don't need spies spying on *us* whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #3
I thought I was pretty clear where I was going. last1standing Jun 2013 #6
I'm concerned that we are DEvolving into a sad state 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #12
I think we're there :/ whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #14
Hedges agrees. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15
I agree with you. last1standing Jun 2013 #16
"This is not how life is supposed to be in this country" 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #33
Atlas Shrugged III L0oniX Jun 2013 #27
Should we let all our spies out of prison? Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #5
It's neither and I'm not sure how you got that out of the OP. last1standing Jun 2013 #7
If spies are needed then why is the goverment pissed about people leaking information. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #9
I disagree with that. last1standing Jun 2013 #11
Yes X 4 n/t Just Saying Jun 2013 #8
No. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #10
Ok. Thanks for your opinion. last1standing Jun 2013 #13
Sure. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #22
Here is the thing about spies to keep in mind The Straight Story Jun 2013 #17
Agreed. Sad, isn't it? last1standing Jun 2013 #18
This is DU; we could argue that water is wet. bluedigger Jun 2013 #19
Hey, now . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #34
"I only regret that I have but 4 laptops of classified information to give for my country." Scurrilous Jun 2013 #20
In some places that's worth a Hero medal with four laptop clusters pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #21
No. But I would agree we need more spy thrillers starring Angelie Jolie quinnox Jun 2013 #23
Fuck the spy business... hunter Jun 2013 #24
People who work for the NSA marions ghost Jun 2013 #25
$200K/yr buys NSA a guy with a High School diploma, but not much company loyalty these days. leveymg Jun 2013 #30
They want to hire those who have no problem with marions ghost Jun 2013 #35
Hoover reaches out from the grave to agree. n/t L0oniX Jun 2013 #26
I'm sure spying used to be a lot easier. moondust Jun 2013 #28
You mean the kind that gave Ben Laden $50M in a hosp in Kuwait 6 mos before 911? kickysnana Jun 2013 #29
Perhaps we do need spies but we haven't got any. eomer Jun 2013 #31
According to some DUers apparently not Narkos Jun 2013 #32
Can't we rent 'em when we need 'em? ... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #36
There is a difference between say a spy like Valerie Plame and Autumn Jun 2013 #37
No. LWolf Jun 2013 #38
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