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60. Rachel Jeantel testified to that

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:24 AM

Jun 2013

She said that Martin asked Zimmerman "Why are you following me?" and that Zimmerman responded by "What are you doing here?"

Zimmerman in at least one of his stories said Martin said "What is your problem?" and Zimmerman said he didn't have a problem.

In both cases, Zimmerman didn't provide a proper response to defuse the situation.

If Zimmerman really wanted to reduce crime in his neighborhood, when Martin passed him as Zimmerman was talking to the Sanford PD, he would have stuck his head out his car window and greeted Martin. If Martin had been "up to no good" that should have been enough to scare him off.

One of the functions of neighborhood watch is to let people know that there are eyes keeping watch on the neighborhood. It is definitely not following and shooting people walking through the neighborhood!

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Why didn't George Zimmerman try starting a conversation with Trayvon Martin instead of killing him? [View all] JaneyVee Jun 2013 OP

because he was previously prejudiced against "thugs" grasswire Jun 2013 #1

Or, more simply put, because he was a N***** Coyotl Jun 2013 #64

Do you know he didn't, or wasn't trying to? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #2

I'm sure he would have mentioned that already to his lawyers. That would be huge. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #3

Because he wanted to make sure he didn't get away Hugabear Jun 2013 #4

It sure seems like you are assuming the worst about Zimmerman. Vattel Jun 2013 #5

So why didn't Zimmerman stay in his car when he was requested to do so by Police? HipChick Jun 2013 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #36

The police did NOT tell him to stay in his car. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #40

But why didn't he engage Martin in a conversation if he was so concerned about something? CTyankee Jun 2013 #86

That requires speculation. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #87

how mysterious that is! Do you think it is ominous? CTyankee Jun 2013 #88

Lots of possible explanations, both pro & anti Z. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #89

Sounds like that Magic 8 Ball thingie... CTyankee Jun 2013 #91

We had one of those when I was a kid, back in the 1950s. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #92

If only it could solve all our problems, right? CTyankee Jun 2013 #93

Should Posters Assume The Best About Him? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #8

Why would we assume the worst? Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #17

THIS! But character cannot precede action to the so-called colorblind defenders of GZ! -NT Anansi1171 Jun 2013 #21

And Trayvon might have been suspended for assulting a bus driver. Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #52

Got a link for that claim? csziggy Jun 2013 #58

yes Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #62

That erroneous report tracks back to a Wagist.com blogger csziggy Jun 2013 #65

^^^Rec^^^ Stardust Jun 2013 #78

But why would Martin attack Zimmerman? Dawgs Jun 2013 #24

I'm sure you are smart enough to answer your own question. Vattel Jun 2013 #44

Your response makes no sense. n/t Dawgs Jun 2013 #47

"The evidence suggests that Martin approached Zimmerman when he was in his car."???? arcane1 Jun 2013 #28

+1 Little Star Jun 2013 #35

Zimmerman during his call said that Martin was coming to check him out. Vattel Jun 2013 #66

He also got out of his truck and started following Martin arcane1 Jun 2013 #68

maybe, but he does say that he was headed back to his car when Martin confronted him. Vattel Jun 2013 #69

You can't say he "maybe" got out of his car and then say "he was headed back to his car" arcane1 Jun 2013 #75

word CatWoman Jun 2013 #79

Blessed art thou arcane1 Jun 2013 #81

What "evidence suggests that Martin approached Zimmerman Raine Jun 2013 #34

It is in the first call Z made to the police. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #41

Trayvon walked BY Zimmerman's truck csziggy Jun 2013 #57

I was going by the transcript of the first call: GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #85

So was I - from the original released recording csziggy Jul 2013 #97

I was only addressing why Z got out of the truck. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #98

I have not seen or heard any evidence that Zimmerman was in his avebury Jun 2013 #37

'Trayvon had plenty of time to get home' - wtf? Hugabear Jun 2013 #51

wooooosh! Vattel Jun 2013 #67

is that the sounds that occurs CatWoman Jun 2013 #80

What difference would it make if Trayvon had been taking his time? Hugabear Jun 2013 #82

no, Trayvon briefly walked toward the car then went the other direction, Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #76

That is what Zimmerman could have done treestar Jun 2013 #7

Fear driven "Gun Mentality" INDEED hlthe2b Jun 2013 #9

you reminded me of the story of Yoshihiro Hattori getting shot for knocking on the wrong door. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #15

I was thinking about him when I wrote that... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #25

I do not understand why the shooter got away with it. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #42

The family was held liable in civil court KittyWampus Jun 2013 #43

Exactly shenmue Jun 2013 #26

You don't start conversations with punks Lithos Jun 2013 #10

We have evidence that Zimmerman had already decided Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #13

Agreed Lithos Jun 2013 #16

I caught, and appreciated, your sarcasm Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #19

"They always get away" he said, and made damn sure this one wouldn't. arcane1 Jun 2013 #29

I thought his statement was "What are you doing here?" Don't know where I heard it or if patricia92243 Jun 2013 #11

Rachel Jeantel testified to that csziggy Jun 2013 #60

+1 N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #99

Because he had already made up his mind that this guy wasn't about chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #12

Why didn't he just stay in his car & wait for police to arrive? KittyWampus Jun 2013 #14

Because those "fucking punks always get away" n/t arcane1 Jun 2013 #30

Nothing suggests that Zimmerman had been nothing but a suspicious, busy body prick... MrScorpio Jun 2013 #18

^^Right here^^ Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #20

that would have been the right thing to do. DesertFlower Jun 2013 #22

There has been a thing that has been bothering me about zimmerman.... all american girl Jun 2013 #23

Maybe this was the first time he had his gun with him. arcane1 Jun 2013 #31

Maybe he didn't confront Martin either. We don't know. Vattel Jun 2013 #45

Drunk? High? No toxicology report, so we'll never know.. ecstatic Jun 2013 #61

Because he had a gun. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #27

Exactly, without that gun, he would have sat in his car and fumed about whatever Hoyt Jun 2013 #32

Perhaps his mind pipi_k Jun 2013 #33

Because lying about the size of his dick had never worked for him in the past? Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #38

Z should NEVER have left his truck. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #39

You are assuming that he got out of his truck so he could follow Martin. Vattel Jun 2013 #46

the officers who interviewed him three days later seemed to think that's why he got out Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #48

My apologies, I was confusing two different issues. Vattel Jun 2013 #70

Pardon us for having opinions. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #49

So why did he get out of his truck? Hugabear Jun 2013 #50

No he admits to getting out of his truck to follow Trayvon. bravenak Jun 2013 #53

True, he said "yes" when the dispatcher asked him if he was following Martin. Vattel Jun 2013 #74

and I'm assuming you're a fan of cold bloodied murder CatWoman Jun 2013 #54

only if the dead is a black kid JI7 Jun 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #72

Not psychic. Just relying upon the transcript of Z's own words. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #84

Why did he pursue Martin even after the 911 dispatcher specifically told him not to? n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #56

Take a look at Zimmerman's face LittleBlue Jun 2013 #59

Nothing wrong with the concept of "neigborhood watch". Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #73

"take a look at Zimmerman's face. Do you see much intelligence there?" naaman fletcher Jun 2013 #90

I agree 100% WhataKnight Jun 2013 #63

Perhaps he did, and it degenerated into a "creepy-ass cracker" versus n-word argument, Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #71

Hi, can I help you? HockeyMom Jun 2013 #77

Detectives Singleton and Serino asked him why he didn't speak to Martin. nyquil_man Jun 2013 #83

He ALREADY called 911 to repoort a person being black in HIS neighborhood rustydog Jun 2013 #94

Fuck Zimmerman. He shot somebody. End of Story. hunter Jun 2013 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #96