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Fire Walk With Me

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18. Firstly, I'm an Occupier, not a tea fuck, so kindly apologize. Leading with insults? Poor.

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:48 AM

Jun 2013

I put it to you to question why your attitude is "I'd strongly suspect", versus "I have read it and I know as fact".

Again, and for the last time, for all the actual good it will do: The 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendments to the Constitution have been eliminated on Obama's watch. Articles and facts regarding this have been presented here in GD for months upon months. Obama has signed some of it into law, or allowed unlawful and unConstitutional acts to occur and continue under his watch. Obama is guilty of this, so yes, he has clearly either allowed or committed crimes (unless you look at twisting of the law to make the illegal, legal. "When the President does it, that means it is not a crime." ~Richard M. Nixon, another who was really into collecting others' information).

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NSA-gate: What did Obama do? [View all] ucrdem Jun 2013 OP

and now 22 democratic senators are asking very specific questions in writing think Jun 2013 #1

Yes, naturally there's a connection. ucrdem Jun 2013 #2

They also read the NSA website while looking for truth... think Jun 2013 #3

I imagine they'll get a response, too, if they haven't already. ucrdem Jun 2013 #4

No. I'm sure you don't think Jun 2013 #15

OMG everyone's out to get Obama's administration. round up the usual supects nt msongs Jun 2013 #5

I can't speak for the signatories ucrdem Jun 2013 #7

let me point out that Sentor Leahy has been concerned about the cali Jun 2013 #27

Of course there's a connection. This is another fake scandal that they have to try to address. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #39

If all it took was tenacity you'd be a champ. think Jun 2013 #40

This is the first I've heard that FISA went back to Carter. snot Jun 2013 #6

It's the FISA law of 1978. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #8

Yes, the FISA bill was submitted in May '77 and signed into law by Carter in Oct. '78, ucrdem Jun 2013 #10

You believe Obama? Who signed the NDAA section 1021 allowing for the indefinite detention of US Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #9

Yes, but the NDAA is a separate issue, no? ucrdem Jun 2013 #11

Goes to motive. He signed it twice, and sent lawyers to defend section 1021 in court Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #13

Have you convinced yourself that Obama has committed a crime? ucrdem Jun 2013 #17

Firstly, I'm an Occupier, not a tea fuck, so kindly apologize. Leading with insults? Poor. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #18

"Goes to motive" suggests that you're discussing a criminal action by the US president. ucrdem Jun 2013 #20

Oh wait, you HAVE convinced yourself Obama has committed a crime, ucrdem Jun 2013 #21

Again Aerows Jun 2013 #30

You haven't been here Aerows Jun 2013 #29

Cute, now you call long term DU'ers nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #45

That's nonsense. They're two separate issues. n/ pnwmom Jun 2013 #42

Your house is on fire. It is burning to the ground. Wake up and do something to save it. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #43

I grew up in a generation where they had us get under desks to protect against a nuclear attack. pnwmom Jun 2013 #44

The greatest danger is for everyone to give all power to Bush and the corporations Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #46

So instead of a commie you got a terrorist under the bed nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #53

The threat of nuclear war was all too real pnwmom Jun 2013 #54

The threat of nuclear war was very real...ironically...actually really nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #55

Do you seriously think terrorists can't get hold of nuclear materials? pnwmom Jun 2013 #57

You are still comparing an extinction level event nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #58

kick! jazzimov Jun 2013 #12

So no warrantless wiretapping is happening now? No collection, just in case snot Jun 2013 #14

No evidence of any has been brought forward, no. ucrdem Jun 2013 #16

You aren't serious, are you? Six corporations, including Mitt Romney's Bain Capital, own Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #19

What the heck is that supposed to mean? ucrdem Jun 2013 #22

You cannot enter "pruit igoe spraying" into an internet search engine to learn why it is foolish Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #24

Article from Friday in Business Insider Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #23

"it is hard to distinguish email metadata from email content" -- No its not. DCBob Jun 2013 #25

They are talking about the dispute over whether subject lines are content or metadata. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #32

Its still easy technically to separate that out. DCBob Jun 2013 #33

Disputed among the authorities themselves does not equal "easy" to tell. n/t Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #34

See snot Jun 2013 #36

Props to leveymg for resuscitating that nasty powerpoint ucrdem Jun 2013 #37

Of course the bashers will find some other way to continue bashing. DCBob Jun 2013 #26

there's this: cali Jun 2013 #28

Thanks. How can I put this in a way you will understand. Let's try this: ucrdem Jun 2013 #31

"Chomsky, Scahill, and Hedges, are right-wing." cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #52

Thanks. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #35

Thanks for the link! n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #38

Cool blog bro LittleBlue Jun 2013 #41

Don't expect them to read Steverleser's post. treestar Jun 2013 #47

Thanks treestar... some won't I suppose, and some would if it was shorter, ucrdem Jun 2013 #48

Good going! treestar Jun 2013 #49

1501 for another milestone! ucrdem Jun 2013 #50

Those warrants aren't legal in anything other than the "newspeak" sense of the word legal. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #51

It's not about Obama. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #56