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TorchTheWitch

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10. was doing those tests possible?

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:21 AM

Jun 2013

I know about luminal, but would that work on a sidewalk that was wet? And doesn't luminal show not only blood but urine, feces, semen, etc.? I would think that luminal would make the entire sidewalk glow considering this was a dog walking area.

What tests could have been done on a wet sidewalk? I ask because it appears that you've looked into this.

One thing I think was shoddy was the officer that took Zimmerman's gun not using gloves or putting the gun in plastic to preserve evidence. He (I believe with was Tim Smith that testified on Day 5) claimed that he did none of this because of lack of time. But with all the other officers there I can't figure why time was an issue.

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Zimmerman Trial - Why do cops/analysts not know what actually happened? [View all] fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 OP

Because the real world has very little to do with your favorite teevee crime show, maybe? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #1

Well, you obviously can't read . . . fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #4

Then why are you asking the question? You already know the answer. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #21

Do you even read an entire post before you reply? fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #26

Because in Sanford, one can probably say no one was there to protect Trayvon Martin. graham4anything Jun 2013 #2

Interestingly, the first LEO on the scene did not believe Zimmerman. yardwork Jun 2013 #32

I have an idea JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #3

was doing those tests possible? TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #10

I haven't looked into it JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #14

My take: By the time they paid attention to public outcry, evidence was gone Siwsan Jun 2013 #5

Well said . . . that's pretty much what I think too. - eom fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #6

This could very well be the case Marrah_G Jun 2013 #30

Apparently somebody lied to you hfojvt Jun 2013 #42

Nobody lied to me - I clearly prefaced it was my take on the case Siwsan Jun 2013 #43

your take on the case, included something untrue hfojvt Jul 2013 #47

You are tenacious. I'll give you that Siwsan Jul 2013 #49

you mean I've got spunk? Thank you, Mr. Grant hfojvt Jul 2013 #51

Lou Grant reference! redwitch Jul 2013 #57

Ah, memories Siwsan Jul 2013 #62

+1,000 n/t malaise Jul 2013 #48

Wasn't it raining that night? nsd Jun 2013 #7

True, but . . . fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #8

And wouldn't there be blood dripping downwards if he shot from below? dkf Jun 2013 #27

I agree... Mojo Electro Jun 2013 #35

The position of the shell casing would not reveal anything about Jenoch Jul 2013 #54

I think it might actually tell a bit. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #61

I was responding to post where Jenoch Jul 2013 #63

Ok, makes sense. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #64

You are right... Mojo Electro Jul 2013 #66

COLLUSION!! This was a cover-up, plain and simple! A cover-up!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #55

Your language about this is all over the place and suggests a need to define words. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #9

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #12

Why get all snarky and personal? And don't tell me what to do for questioning Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15

The nap didn't help? fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #29

The police didn't cover the crime scene to protect against the rain. pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Great information. Thanks pnwmom. - eom fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #28

Is the problem that they did no ballistic studies soon enough to determine trajectory? dkf Jun 2013 #31

Instead of arresting him, they sent Zimmerman home, presumably wearing his clothes, pnwmom Jun 2013 #36

As I recall, the cops didn't initially treat this as a murder. pnwmom Jun 2013 #11

that's how I remember it, too TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #22

I agree with most of that, but I think they did know Zimmerman, pnwmom Jun 2013 #24

Ah, yes, that's true TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #37

The reason is because the cops didn't think this was murder lunatica Jun 2013 #13

they didn't this of is AS murder - mzteris Jun 2013 #16

they didn't even treat it as a homicide never mind a murder n/t TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #23

sick, sick, sick Skittles Jul 2013 #52

In part because the only live person involved has already lied Sheepshank Jun 2013 #17

The prosecution hasn't finished presenting their case. pintobean Jun 2013 #18

The forensic information regarding the bullet's trajectory Lurks Often Jun 2013 #20

Thank you L.O. Great information. - eom fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #25

they obviously haven't been reading DU alc Jun 2013 #33

A number of posters hear read a number of posts at the time of the death. pnwmom Jun 2013 #38

And some obvisouly haven't read anything at all about this case lunatica Jun 2013 #41

Very detailed information from law enforcement and the medical examiners office . . . fleur-de-lisa Jun 2013 #34

yeah, it is good info TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #39

"But if Zimmerman had listened to the dispatcher... Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #44

Several explanations, reasons if you will. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #40

Because DU's armchair attorney-jurists haven't told them yet. flvegan Jun 2013 #45

+1,000 Vattel Jun 2013 #46

While others have had lobotomies and hold no opinions WHATSOEVER! WinkyDink Jul 2013 #50

What I think? It's COLLUSION!! Cops were negligent. They didn't care about a black boy losing Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #53

sounds like in NYC they have the blue wall of silence, and 96 hours to concoct in unison a story graham4anything Jul 2013 #59

They'd have to admit they were ineffectual even after orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #56

A major major major fact... Saturday Jul 2013 #58

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence hugo_from_TN Jul 2013 #60

I'm supposing a DNA expert will be called. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #65