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152. What Amazes Me Is The Willingness Of Many To Believe Government Denials As Absolute Truth

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Isn't it amusing to watch people who have called Obama-supporters 'worshippers' [View all] Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 OP

So what do you think of the NSA surveillance programme, Summer? sibelian Jun 2013 #1

Which programme would that be? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #2

Snowden still has yet to prove the NSA has direct access to the servers of internet companies Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #7

Are you serious? truedelphi Jun 2013 #53

What did you learn from that? I thought it was like a timeshare pitch flamingdem Jun 2013 #79

Glen,the bastion of credibility...... dionysus Jun 2013 #122

What Amazes Me Is The Willingness Of Many To Believe Government Denials As Absolute Truth cantbeserious Jun 2013 #152

The phone tap of the President's phone JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #156

What do you think of PRISM? Is that specific enough for you, dear? cali Jun 2013 #10

What do YOU think Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #14

hahahaaha. typical and ever so lame. cali Jun 2013 #17

And I see Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #20

I've said all I have to say about Snowden cali Jun 2013 #33

You should "give a shit" if you care about the truth. DCBob Jun 2013 #137

You should start your own thread if you want to talk about PRISM, not hijack the thread MADem Jun 2013 #30

it's taboo, not tabu. don't be nadine. dionysus Jun 2013 #124

What do you always call people "dear"? Is that supposed to be some condescending jab? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #166

You know that's not what the OP Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #5

Good points, Maximum Hekate Jun 2013 #120

Yup Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #3

what's funny about the paid operative thing is JI7 Jun 2013 #15

Amen! Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #27

+1 treestar Jun 2013 #64

we can't be partisan now! Whisp Jun 2013 #104

That is particularly precious, isn't it? nt Hekate Jun 2013 #123

yeah, that would be funny if it werent so sad. DCBob Jun 2013 #139

Wow, what a bunch of BS..... Logical Jun 2013 #153

Exactly! And they do this without taking into account what site they're posting on. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #165

This is exactly the level of fantasy analysis on, say, IMDB actors' fan boards. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #4

lol, it is a bunch of gobbledygook quinnox Jun 2013 #8

Please feel free to point out Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #9

just about all of it quinnox Jun 2013 #13

I never claimed to be a mind-reader Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #19

It was like a ticker tape parade for Neil Armstrong. Whisp Jun 2013 #105

My response mick063 Jun 2013 #6

Exactly. It's not the messenger, it's the message. Snowden's didn't make the Obama administration MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #11

Is it even remotely possible Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #12

But WHY talk about him? It isn't about him, it's about our government and their spying on everyone. kas125 Jun 2013 #16

Wow. "I know you are but what am I" Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #23

I have no clue what you're talking about, you may as well have written that post in Chinese for kas125 Jun 2013 #31

Holy crap! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #172

This thread IS about him, and the amusing reactions of his acolytes as they realize, slowly, MADem Jun 2013 #38

The circular logic ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #48

My head hurts. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #91

It's about him because there is no independent corroboration. jeff47 Jun 2013 #127

Because it really *isn't* about Snowden, and the only people Marr Jun 2013 #155

Well, this OP is about Snowden. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #188

No, I don't-- because I didn't notice any Snowden worship. Marr Jun 2013 #191

WELL SAID. woo me with science Jun 2013 #18

And is it not ironic, that Obama went all around the truedelphi Jun 2013 #89

lol dionysus Jun 2013 #125

Please add chervilant Jun 2013 #184

This OP is truly warped. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #21

"To allege otherwise is both disingenuous and profoundly ignorant." Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #25

Your entire OP attempts,unsuccessfully, to conflate the leaks with the leaker... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #34

Gee whiz, whoever smelt it, dealt it! I didn't see your name in the OP... MADem Jun 2013 #39

I am getting really tired of the circus act this has turned into. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #43

If you are really all that 'tired,' exercise a little self-control. MADem Jun 2013 #50

Having my cake and eating it, too? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #40

So how can you manage to justify your own clinging? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #44

What is it I'm clinging to? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #55

And where is your equal concern with those who have shilled for the administration? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #56

Do you understand the concept of Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #57

Doesn't address some people's adoration Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #26

I have seen little consideration on either extreme of the debate Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #36

O.M.G. ProSense Jun 2013 #60

That's not irony. That is me pointing out how you are part of the circus. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #61

And ProSense Jun 2013 #68

Laughing is good for your health. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #71

That's it. What you said! nt MADem Jun 2013 #42

+ a stone cold million and I LOVE your user name!! Number23 Jun 2013 #84

bullshit. snowden\assange\manning are the sweet bebe jesus to many here. dionysus Jun 2013 #126

Snowden has made claims of new capabilities and practices that are particularly disturbing if true. DCBob Jun 2013 #140

I am grateful that Snowden has sacrificed so much of his life and freedom JDPriestly Jun 2013 #22

Isn't it quite the coincidence that Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #28

I'm not sure what you are driving at. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #32

"My Obama-supporter credentials are beyond reproach." This is a discussion board. Bullshit is king. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #149

Are you trying to say that in order to qualify as an Obama-supporter, JDPriestly Jun 2013 #162

And Saint Eddie is no fan of social security and medicare! MADem Jun 2013 #47

Did anyone claim that Snowden was a Democrat? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #163

They claimed he was for truth, justice and the American way! MADem Jun 2013 #169

How can a Democrat favor this kind of massive surveillance any more JDPriestly Jun 2013 #171

He hasn't proven that such "massive surveillance" is actually happening. MADem Jun 2013 #175

I'm talking about the metadata. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #178

How is your right to form associations being abrogated? MADem Jun 2013 #181

there is a difference between supporters and worshipers Skittles Jun 2013 #24

When folks are reduced to using FauxSnooze, World Nut Daily and similar sources as MADem Jun 2013 #29

you're fucking kidding, right? wapo and the guardian uk are now fox news and wnd? frylock Jun 2013 #90

No--those guys haven't been 'on the story' for days now. MADem Jun 2013 #144

Get back to me when any Snowden supporter Union Scribe Jun 2013 #35

Well, to each his own. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #41

It's my measure of how a man is adored by a fanbase Union Scribe Jun 2013 #45

The concept of my OP Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #52

Nope, the 'isn't he so handsome' pics kiva Jun 2013 #88

Go back to the DU posts Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #108

That's horse shit! Obama introduced himself to the world giving a substantive MADem Jun 2013 #146

lol quinnox Jun 2013 #46

You mean like THESE? That are all over the intertubes? MADem Jun 2013 #49

I recall a post on the first day of Eddie's known existence treestar Jun 2013 #66

In my neighborhood, he would .... er... not be regarded as such! MADem Jun 2013 #145

Sweet Fancy Moses... somebody get that boy a pork chop sandwich STAT!! Number23 Jun 2013 #85

... Stop!! Stop!! You're killin' me!!! MADem Jun 2013 #147

You really are comparing the two? Whisp Jun 2013 #76

I'm not your son, and it's not my comparison. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #93

It must be so sad that your hero Snowden is a traitorass Whisp Jun 2013 #95

Not my hero. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #97

His actions are not yet clear or known, and you favor them Whisp Jun 2013 #98

They're apparently "known" enough Union Scribe Jun 2013 #99

were you aware that China does cyberwarfare on Tibet? Whisp Jun 2013 #100

Once again... Union Scribe Jun 2013 #101

sorry but even if this phony 2-bit hacker is the "first neutron"... DCBob Jun 2013 #141

PLA Unit 61398--their job is to collect a lot more than "metadata"....on US. MADem Jun 2013 #177

Yah, they are the good guys and the U.S. should just STOP! Whisp Jun 2013 #186

LOL Scurrilous Jun 2013 #92

Oh but this is different!1! JNelson6563 Jun 2013 #37

I object to your abuse of the word 'fact' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #51

My position is rather simple. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #54

When you claim there are people who amuse you by saying one thing then the Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #82

No, there are no 'links' ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #109

That was not your assertion. Your OP claims that you are amused by a group of Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #167

Thank you. Puglover Jun 2013 #65

This thread is back open after all day discussions on two equal threads on opposite opinions graham4anything Jun 2013 #58

kick Whisp Jun 2013 #59

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #62

+1 million treestar Jun 2013 #63

Nailed it. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #67

K/R. (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #69

*PLONK* backscatter712 Jun 2013 #70

More ProSense Jun 2013 #75

ZING! BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #157

You lost me after "for years now on this site" when you've been here 18 months. Melinda Jun 2013 #72

It's a sock of a rather well known columnist here. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #113

And they seem to be multiplying. Melinda Jun 2013 #133

Not necessarily referring to you, but I find it highly amusing ... Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #150

I don't find dishonesty amusing out of anyone. So Summer is actually some other Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #168

"Dishonest brokers are dishonest for a reason." Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #180

Who? We have a "well known columnist" here? nt MADem Jun 2013 #176

It's typical hypocrisy.. they have no clue why Pres Obama has supporters.. Cha Jun 2013 #73

such nonsense. I have every idea why people support the President and on cali Jun 2013 #77

As usual, Cali, well stated! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2013 #110

Popcorn with butter nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #74

I have little interest in Pin Up Politics, but I would like to see an example or two of Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #78

Why waste time on this cult of personality stuff when the NSA is still spying on us? n/t DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #80

Don't worry your pretty little head about the steroids. Iggo Jun 2013 #81

I try hard to not call anyone a "worshiper," unless I'm talking about religion. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #83

"Snowden has very little influence on policy ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #107

K&R If I thought these folks had a conscience or a clue, I'd be upset by what they call Number23 Jun 2013 #86

I'm having trouble discerning what your central point is. Could you please state it HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #87

Sure. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #103

Thanks. Without throwing your thread completely off its tracks, maybe HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #158

. baldguy Jun 2013 #94

Pretty succinct there, baldguy. thank you. nm Cha Jun 2013 #106

If there is no truth to Snowden's allegations . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #116

I can't believe this BS is still going around on DU Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #118

Snowden's personal ability to access anybody's information . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #119

"government collecting and storing meta data" is legal... DCBob Jun 2013 #142

The story so far ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #187

Succinctly put Hekate Jun 2013 #129

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #183

HUGE K&R...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #96

Well said Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #102

Kick! zappaman Jun 2013 #111

That isn't nearly as amusing as . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #112

Keep catapulting the propaganda Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #114

I used a gross generalization . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #115

Also amusing: watching the usual suspects suddenly become 4th amendment warriors. ucrdem Jun 2013 #117

this is the best OP i've read in a while. dionysus Jun 2013 #121

This thread should be pinned to the top of the forum. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #128

Isn't it amazing how well this right-wing plan is coming together? jeff47 Jun 2013 #130

It's a bit harsh on Summer Hathaway to call her OP a 'right-wing plan' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #132

I think Summer just wants to inject some common sense and reality into this discussion. DCBob Jun 2013 #143

What the clueless OP failes to realize is that it is not about Snowden. It is about the NSA. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #154

Then why is Summer using hyperbolic characterizations of a class of DUer that Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #160

I'm not. Her post is a symptom of the plan, not part of it. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #182

"SH is screaming all kinds of things ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #190

k r flamingdem Jun 2013 #131

It is amusing. I think "they" would worship ANYBODY who could possibly bring down Obama. lamp_shade Jun 2013 #134

A short addition to your post Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #135

Kick and Recommend! FSogol Jun 2013 #136

yeah, aint it the truth. DCBob Jun 2013 #138

I don't think it is the truth at all, can you show me these posters that 'amuse' Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #164

Not really. LWolf Jun 2013 #148

You are another DUer who is too clueless to realize this not about Snowden, it is about.... Logical Jun 2013 #151

Excellent post, Summer! Kicking and Recommended. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #159

Can you point out this amusing group of people to me? Or is this just bullshit? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #161

Deified? Really? Even if someone is considered a hero that doesn't make them a god TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #170

K&R for the truth worshipers. great white snark Jun 2013 #173

Joseph Goebbels: Zorra Jun 2013 #174

It's not about Snowden. Apophis Jun 2013 #179

It wasn't about Medea either, or about brave Rand when he stood up ucrdem Jun 2013 #185

Look like more and more, Snowden will end up in a US courtroom. bluestate10 Jun 2013 #189