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In reply to the discussion: We are in deep shit with our European allies. [View all]Buns_of_Fire
(19,128 posts)37. Here's a translation (via Chrome) of the first four paragraphs.
Not too bad, for a machine translation. I left it exactly as Chrome translated it. The second paragraph is the one cited in the above post.
Hamburg - The U.S. National Security Agency ( NSA ) not only monitors the communication of European citizens, but apparently peeking also targeted the EU building. This is clear from secret documents that the whistleblower Edward Snowden owns and Der Spiegel could see in parts. In a "top secret" classified NSA paper in September 2010 describes how the intelligence attacked the EU's diplomatic representation in Washington.
Thus, not only bugs were installed in the building in the U.S. capital, but also the internal computer network was infiltrated. In this way, the Americans not only get access to meetings at the premises of the EU , but also to e-mails and internal documents on the computers.
The attack on the EU institutions is a further level of Spähaktivitäten the NSA. For weeks diving details about Prism , and other monitoring programs that the whistleblower Snowden has assembled. The British intelligence agency GCHQ will therefore result in a similar program called tenses, with the world's telephone and Internet connections to be monitored .
According to the documents, which SPIEGEL has read, the EU representation has been attacked in like manner as those in Washington at the United Nations. In the NSA document of September 2010, the Europeans are expressly named as an attack target.
Thus, not only bugs were installed in the building in the U.S. capital, but also the internal computer network was infiltrated. In this way, the Americans not only get access to meetings at the premises of the EU , but also to e-mails and internal documents on the computers.
The attack on the EU institutions is a further level of Spähaktivitäten the NSA. For weeks diving details about Prism , and other monitoring programs that the whistleblower Snowden has assembled. The British intelligence agency GCHQ will therefore result in a similar program called tenses, with the world's telephone and Internet connections to be monitored .
According to the documents, which SPIEGEL has read, the EU representation has been attacked in like manner as those in Washington at the United Nations. In the NSA document of September 2010, the Europeans are expressly named as an attack target.
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How sad that the EU has more power to influence US spy programs than American citizens.
reformist2
Jun 2013
#1
It's a big PR game. We tap them, they tap us. They act outraged, we promise to be nice.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#2
And you hinestly believe that the US tapped German lines without knowledge of the Germans?
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#5
I honestly believe that the German Government had no knowledge, nor gave any permission
Pachamama
Jun 2013
#59
Plus, the reason the German leadership denies this is to avoid the ire of the citizens
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#72
That is what the minority refuse to acknowledge the unprecedented scope, and suspicionless nature
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#25
Every country, and I mean *every* country, puts intel assets in their embassies. Period.
Recursion
Jun 2013
#21
I don't think our relations with the EU are anywhere near as close as they are with the UK...
reformist2
Jun 2013
#30
What's wrong with this picture is you're conflating the people with their government.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#71
Keep that label maker working overtime. It's better than not having a hobby at all.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#73
Let me phrase what you are saying "They need us, so FUCK THEM!!". Sound correct? n-t
Logical
Jun 2013
#112
I would be interested to see evidence that the EU systematically targeted US gov installations
Democracyinkind
Jun 2013
#12
my guess - there is big, big money in all of this shit, both sides, all sides- on one hand, I am not
NRaleighLiberal
Jun 2013
#18
This is plainly wrong, Snowden story has nothing to do with this. We shouldn't spy on allies.
JackN415
Jun 2013
#24
It wasn't spying on citizen for private info.It was meta data for pattern recognition. Not the same
JackN415
Jun 2013
#38
like "living" is "living". Simple words do not reveal/solve problems. That's for the dark age. eom.
JackN415
Jun 2013
#42
Well Like The Dark Ages - Maybe Some Don't Have The Vision To See What Is Going On In the World
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#43
I'm so sick of my country being the world police agency protecting and serving the 1%. nt
Zorra
Jun 2013
#31
On the "bright" side, Russia is thrilled & producing t.v. "news" shows about its newfound role as
UTUSN
Jun 2013
#34
Well, thanks for steering me to the full GREENWALD article I couldn't find. And I'm not sure
UTUSN
Jun 2013
#48
Ingrates! They don't appreciate that our spying on them is really a mark of respect and friendship.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#50
Nope. He's just trying to make his anti-government libertarian friends happy...
Galraedia
Jun 2013
#107
You reap what you sow. The fallout will be from our attitude towards the world, not Snowden n/t
Catherina
Jun 2013
#97
Link To New PRISM Details From The Washington Post - How The NSA Collects The Data
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#102
Just wait till we get to the part about manipulation of friendly governments.
roamer65
Jul 2013
#122