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hollysmom

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42. my border collie was immediately responsive to my call and very non-aggressive.

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 05:02 PM

Jun 2013

I used to walk her off the leash all the time, she would look at me if she wanted to chase something and I would have to give her permission. I did not train her, she trained herself and had great restraint.

I did not walk her off the leash but in carefully selected spots. mostly because I used her to chase Canadian geese from our parks and then would call her back - kept our parks geese free for years, not that anyone thanked us. She had no desire to hurt them just herd them. She was also incredible with children, very patient as they would stand on her tail or pull her ears (yes I stopped it, but kids can swarm in some of the parks. I don't even take my current dog near those parks, she is too impulsive). Know your dog, know your self. Know the area and what you can expect that time of day.

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Our 30 lb. poodle mix just survived an attack on a hiking trail [View all] pnwmom Jun 2013 OP

Happened to my dog on our own property. Our Wheaten, who had cancer, glinda Jun 2013 #1

I'm so sorry, glinda! What a horrible way to lose a dog. pnwmom Jun 2013 #2

It is good to carry a horn or a spray. glinda Jun 2013 #60

. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #57

I believe in leashes. ALL the time, unless you're in deep country or a fenced-in yard. Demoiselle Jun 2013 #3

They were in pretty deep country on a backpacking trip. pnwmom Jun 2013 #5

NEVER EVER let your dog off its leash in public. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #4

Our other dog has been attacked several times in an enclosed dog park. pnwmom Jun 2013 #6

I should say "possible" exception. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #8

Everybody says that, MsPithy Jun 2013 #81

We are about a 5 minute walk from a dog park IDemo Jun 2013 #131

my border collie was immediately responsive to my call and very non-aggressive. hollysmom Jun 2013 #42

Border collies are known for that -- probably because they were bred for that kind of control. pnwmom Jun 2013 #48

she was part lab as well hollysmom Jun 2013 #50

Sounds like a wonderful dog. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #52

I would walk her on leash to the park hollysmom Jun 2013 #61

ugh FirstLight Jun 2013 #7

Yes, that's happened when we've had dogs on leash, too. pnwmom Jun 2013 #9

I dunno FirstLight Jun 2013 #10

Amen and Amen! TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #24

I'm going to go out on a limb Aerows Jun 2013 #53

This sounds like blaming the victim. pnwmom Jun 2013 #62

Except this isn't the first round I've had with TTW Aerows Jun 2013 #68

I noticed that people didn't understand that my dog was actually safer being off leash, pnwmom Jun 2013 #71

Pretty much she was Aerows Jun 2013 #76

But, there are problems with being off leash also. MsPithy Jun 2013 #85

It's true that sometimes there are no good options. pnwmom Jun 2013 #87

Yes, I'm glad thing worked out as well as could be expected for your MsPithy Jun 2013 #107

BULLSHIT TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #109

Your confidence is misplaced HisTomness Jun 2013 #67

And your qualifications are? Aerows Jun 2013 #69

Qualifications? LOL! HisTomness Jul 2013 #154

It certainly does Aerows Jul 2013 #155

And you'll fall out of the tree TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #94

Won't be the first time I fell out of a tree Aerows Jul 2013 #156

Exactly! My german shepherd is very reactive to other dogs nadine_mn Jun 2013 #80

This happens all the time on the Sacramento River. blueamy66 Jun 2013 #88

Wow, that's scary and I hope you reported this to whatever authorities are in charge Cleita Jun 2013 #11

Unfortunately, this was in a forest where there's no easy access to people in charge. pnwmom Jun 2013 #12

You still need to report it. If you live in CA, there is a state law that dogs are not to be off Cleita Jun 2013 #13

Unfortunately, my son didn't realize right away that she'd been bitten pnwmom Jun 2013 #30

That's too bad. They are liable for your vet bills if you can catch them. n/t Cleita Jun 2013 #36

The wounded dog who was attacked was off the leash too--that'd be turning themselves in. nt MADem Jun 2013 #77

It would be and they probably would both get a lecture and maybe even Cleita Jun 2013 #84

No, they wouldn't "both" get a lecture. Only the names of one party are known, here. MADem Jun 2013 #133

Whatever. I'm happy in my county, the so-called authorities do work with both sides of Cleita Jul 2013 #141

They can't work with both sides when one side has a dog that bit the other one, and they ran off. MADem Jul 2013 #142

That's just not so. It might have enraged the larger dogs enough to attack the Cleita Jul 2013 #144

Dog can't bite what he can't see. A million postmen and meter readers swear by it. MADem Jul 2013 #147

Yes, though ironically she was safer this way; and my son, too. pnwmom Jun 2013 #86

I know--its a pity your dog got hurt at all. I think you need some pepper spray in your hiking kit. MADem Jun 2013 #132

Yes, I think all this has convinced me. It might not have helped in a situation pnwmom Jun 2013 #134

"Oh, but Muffy wouldn't hurt a fly!" Warpy Jun 2013 #14

She's going to be okay, and the vet will be $870 dollars richer. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Ouch. Warpy Jun 2013 #20

Amen n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #59

"Muffy won't hurt a fly" Aerows Jun 2013 #56

are the owners of the pit bull going to pay the vet bill? Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #15

Did your dog break free of her leash prior to the attack? nt bike man Jun 2013 #16

She was walking with my son off-leash. But we have had another dog attacked while pnwmom Jun 2013 #18

Smaller dogs who are friendly but without restraint (leash) can be easy prey to a large bike man Jun 2013 #22

No, she definitely wasn't running up to him, playfully or otherwise. pnwmom Jun 2013 #25

jeebus Kali Jun 2013 #31

I don't know how bad the bite is. Vets are getting more and more expensive around here, pnwmom Jun 2013 #37

I wuv you kali darkangel218 Jun 2013 #78

Turns out it was wide and deep enough to require a drain for the next few days. pnwmom Jun 2013 #79

Oh I am so sorry for your dog and you nadine_mn Jun 2013 #82

Thank you. My husband has been anxious all afternoon, waiting to get the call pnwmom Jun 2013 #83

800 is probably accurate. MsPithy Jun 2013 #89

easy solution...shoot the pit backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #17

All dangerous dogs should be euthanized. roody Jun 2013 #108

And just how would you go about identifying "the pit" to be able to shoot it? baldguy Jun 2013 #116

What the fuck? one_voice Jun 2013 #122

He has. flvegan Jun 2013 #128

You are inferring Oneka Jul 2013 #153

(facepalm) flvegan Jun 2013 #127

unleashed dogs are a fucking menace TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #21

Thanks for your concern, TTW! Unfortunately, my son didn't realize right away pnwmom Jun 2013 #28

your dog will be fine as long as you blast it TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #125

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. pnwmom Jun 2013 #126

I'll take a Pug biting me Aerows Jun 2013 #43

Orange oil spray works better. hollysmom Jun 2013 #44

I carry Halt!, a pepper spray for dogs, on my bicycle rides. Meter readers and bike man Jun 2013 #58

But the risk is that your own dog gets a face full of that, too. pnwmom Jun 2013 #74

Halt! for dogs is not as harmful to dogs as "people" mace. But that is NOT the only option. bike man Jun 2013 #104

Why do folks walk with their dogs off-leash? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2013 #23

I will never ever ever understand this TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #27

That doesn't excuse the fact that the owners Aerows Jun 2013 #32

"pit bull...are hard-wired toward agression. You will never convince me otherwise"."like a pit bull" uppityperson Jul 2013 #139

Our other dog has been attacked at an off leash dog park, more than once. pnwmom Jun 2013 #40

People should not take dangerous dogs to the dog park. hollysmom Jun 2013 #47

that's why I stay clear of dog parks TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #121

At the very least, you can rein in/control YOUR dog TheCowsCameHome Jun 2013 #45

Reining in our dog wouldn't have helped my son much in this situation. pnwmom Jun 2013 #90

Your son was indeed fortunate, TheCowsCameHome Jun 2013 #114

Our dogs are thirty pound fuzz balls, and no one ever seems intimidated by them. pnwmom Jun 2013 #119

So they can run and sniff around and act like dogs. pnwmom Jun 2013 #33

You did nothing wrong Aerows Jun 2013 #39

Yeah, that's how it seems to me, too. At least the pit didn't bite my son. pnwmom Jun 2013 #41

God Aerows Jun 2013 #65

I know. He wasn't alone, at least. He was with a girlfriend, who could have called for help. pnwmom Jun 2013 #100

German Shepherd Aerows Jun 2013 #26

yep backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #29

Their bloodline has been destroyed Aerows Jun 2013 #35

Absolutely! This is the heart of the matter! MsPithy Jun 2013 #91

"Their bloodline" is an interesting thing to say. flvegan Jul 2013 #140

Hope she does ok. Why was YOUR dog off leash? Don't let your dog off leash. uppityperson Jun 2013 #34

Because she's a dog and the only place she gets to act like one is on a trail in the woods. pnwmom Jun 2013 #46

and what about bears.....am sad when glinda Jun 2013 #63

Yes, that would be a danger. But our dogs stick close to us. My husband trained them well pnwmom Jun 2013 #75

Yet you and others continue to write don't have dogs off leash. Even you. Even your dog. Not just uppityperson Jun 2013 #73

The thing is, under these circumstances both she and my son were better off pnwmom Jun 2013 #96

Not everybody lives in the city or suburbs. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2013 #49

Some dogs are great off leash, Quantess Jun 2013 #55

oh no! a la izquierda Jun 2013 #38

aw I hope your dog is OK pnwmom Skittles Jun 2013 #51

We're waiting to hear from the vet that she's out of "surgery" pnwmom Jun 2013 #72

I'm glad you are okay. LWolf Jun 2013 #54

I think having three large dogs running loose together was a mistake. pnwmom Jun 2013 #66

Sorry for your dog's injury, but I just have to say ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #64

Ironically, if she had been on-leash, the pit bull would have had continued access to her pnwmom Jun 2013 #70

Would it be too much to ask Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #92

I don't know where exactly my son was. pnwmom Jun 2013 #93

I wonder if a can of pepper spay Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #97

I'm thinking about that now. The disadvantage, of course, is that it would be hard pnwmom Jun 2013 #99

I would think if it incapacitated Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #101

Halt! is carried by meter readers, mail carriers, and me on my bicycle. It is not as harmful bike man Jun 2013 #111

Thanks for the tip Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #115

Bicycle shops often carry it. Or online from various places, Amazon bike man Jun 2013 #118

In my opinion, dogs should NEVER be off leash. alarimer Jun 2013 #95

Well, in this case, my dog probably would have been bitten again if she had been on leash. pnwmom Jun 2013 #98

This is my concern when I go on trails now days DeschutesRiver Jun 2013 #102

Thanks, DR. Yes, I'm sure my son had quite an adrenaline rush from the experience pnwmom Jun 2013 #105

One thing I forgot is that there is a pepper gel spray that I am looking at DeschutesRiver Jun 2013 #110

Thanks for the info! pnwmom Jun 2013 #112

I'm so sorry that happened! Texasgal Jun 2013 #103

I've seen a couple horrendous youtube videos of attacks on small, leashed dogs pnwmom Jun 2013 #106

My dogs are small too. Texasgal Jun 2013 #123

Thank you! The wound looks terrible now -- four or five inches long, with drains pnwmom Jun 2013 #124

In the city, dogs and cats are vermin aristocles Jun 2013 #113

And humans are vermin in the city, country, and 'burbs then. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #145

i've lived in cities all my life, and thats just true. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2013 #158

Sorry about your dog. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #117

Dogs are stoic. My son knew to get her to the vet pnwmom Jun 2013 #120

pnwmom, I'm sorry this happened flvegan Jun 2013 #129

Thank you, fivegan! n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #130

What a nightmare. I'm really sorry you guys had to got hrough this. Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #135

Thank you, Rowdyboy. My son is distressed that he couldn't stop the attack pnwmom Jun 2013 #136

I have a 13 lb Jack Russell mix who at 13 has never met a challenge she was afraid of.... Rowdyboy Jul 2013 #138

I am happy that she'll be able to come home, I'm sure life long demo Jun 2013 #137

Glad it ended as well as it did, pnwmom. I know Cha Jul 2013 #143

Thank you, Cha. pnwmom Jul 2013 #146

poor dog Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #148

That bite will hurt your dog like hell. I've had a dog bite before. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #149

My son was too busy chasing after our dog, and the one that was still chasing her. pnwmom Jul 2013 #150

One thing about poodle's and poodle mixes MuseRider Jul 2013 #151

I didn't know that about poodles. But I know she's a little gazelle. pnwmom Jul 2013 #152

I'm so sorry! Solly Mack Jul 2013 #157

She's doing better. As long as it doesn't get infected, she'll be okay.n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #159

Good thoughts coming your way! Solly Mack Jul 2013 #160

Thanks, Solly Mack! n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #161