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AngryAmish

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11. Egypt is a mess and is going to get much worse

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:51 AM

Jul 2013

The Muslim Brotherhood does not know how to run a country.

There are lots of young men who can see what the first world has and are enraged that they cannot have it. Yet no one can figure out how to raise living standards.

They had a monarchy - it failed. Socialism failed. Now religious rule is failing.

The opposition are nihilists. They don't know what they want just that the status quo sucks.

Egypt is going to burn. Eventually the army will install a Islamy strongman like Mubarek. It is the only way to have order.

This calls for real diplomacy to look after the US interests but we are not capable of that at the moment.

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Should Obama give Morsi the Mubarak treatment? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 OP

No dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

But he is governing in a very undemocratic manner. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #3

Nothing to say that wouldn't happen another time round. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #4

How many corporatist thugs would you see democratically elected Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #8

This. Morsi too needs to be hung on a meathook by his own people. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #5

Wow, that's a pretty barbaric way to treat a democratically elected president. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #18

But if it's done by the people that elected him, then watched him betray them... backscatter712 Jul 2013 #20

Obama should offer humanitarian aid and butt out. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #2

To which side? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #6

I just said we don't take sides. You give it to people who need it, the UN, Red Crescent, etc. bemildred Jul 2013 #7

The Morsi faction might take umbrage if that aid reaches the anti-Morsi faction. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #9

So? nt bemildred Jul 2013 #10

So, they would interpret that as us butting-in in favor of the anti-Morsi faction. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #12

Right, the ideologues won't like it. Those are the guys we want to ignore. bemildred Jul 2013 #13

"We want to deal with the people who want to get along, we want to help them." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #14

I don't understand what you mean,m could you re-phrase that? bemildred Jul 2013 #15

Egypt is a mess and is going to get much worse AngryAmish Jul 2013 #11

Morsi is not a dictator, and what we should do is stay out of Egypt's business. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #16

"Morsi is not a dictator" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #17

The fact remains that he was democratically elected. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #19

A majority vote does not constitute a democratic government. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #21

That is their business, not ours. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #32

When Mubarak was on the outs people cheered. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #33

You've been told repeatedly why this is different. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #36

Orval Faubus was also democratically elected. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #40

The OP is an insult to the Egyptian people. former9thward Jul 2013 #22

You'll notice there have been no edits to my OP. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #23

Everyone can read. former9thward Jul 2013 #24

I unabashedly own my OP, title and all. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #25

You give the President credit and I don't think there is any basis for it. former9thward Jul 2013 #26

You may not give the President credit but I do; again, unabashedly so. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #27

The trip to Africa was about resources. former9thward Jul 2013 #28

. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #29

Absolutely not. We should stay the hell out of it Duckwraps Jul 2013 #30

Silence will be seen as a defense of Morsi. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #31

You are probably right but Duckwraps Jul 2013 #34

We need not champion a faction, only our ideals. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #35

How would you intervene? Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #37

I've never petitioned for intervention. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #38

We already send boatloads of military hardware. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #39

I meant it in the terms of equipping protesters or any such things some other party might Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #41

Yes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #43