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Nuclear Unicorn

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35. We need not champion a faction, only our ideals.

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:58 PM

Jul 2013

Democracy.
Peaceful redress of grievances.
Human rights.
Equality under the law.

Say it over and over again until everyone believes it -- including us.

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Should Obama give Morsi the Mubarak treatment? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 OP

No dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

But he is governing in a very undemocratic manner. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #3

Nothing to say that wouldn't happen another time round. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #4

How many corporatist thugs would you see democratically elected Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #8

This. Morsi too needs to be hung on a meathook by his own people. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #5

Wow, that's a pretty barbaric way to treat a democratically elected president. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #18

But if it's done by the people that elected him, then watched him betray them... backscatter712 Jul 2013 #20

Obama should offer humanitarian aid and butt out. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #2

To which side? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #6

I just said we don't take sides. You give it to people who need it, the UN, Red Crescent, etc. bemildred Jul 2013 #7

The Morsi faction might take umbrage if that aid reaches the anti-Morsi faction. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #9

So? nt bemildred Jul 2013 #10

So, they would interpret that as us butting-in in favor of the anti-Morsi faction. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #12

Right, the ideologues won't like it. Those are the guys we want to ignore. bemildred Jul 2013 #13

"We want to deal with the people who want to get along, we want to help them." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #14

I don't understand what you mean,m could you re-phrase that? bemildred Jul 2013 #15

Egypt is a mess and is going to get much worse AngryAmish Jul 2013 #11

Morsi is not a dictator, and what we should do is stay out of Egypt's business. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #16

"Morsi is not a dictator" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #17

The fact remains that he was democratically elected. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #19

A majority vote does not constitute a democratic government. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #21

That is their business, not ours. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #32

When Mubarak was on the outs people cheered. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #33

You've been told repeatedly why this is different. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #36

Orval Faubus was also democratically elected. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #40

The OP is an insult to the Egyptian people. former9thward Jul 2013 #22

You'll notice there have been no edits to my OP. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #23

Everyone can read. former9thward Jul 2013 #24

I unabashedly own my OP, title and all. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #25

You give the President credit and I don't think there is any basis for it. former9thward Jul 2013 #26

You may not give the President credit but I do; again, unabashedly so. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #27

The trip to Africa was about resources. former9thward Jul 2013 #28

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Absolutely not. We should stay the hell out of it Duckwraps Jul 2013 #30

Silence will be seen as a defense of Morsi. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #31

You are probably right but Duckwraps Jul 2013 #34

We need not champion a faction, only our ideals. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #35

How would you intervene? Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #37

I've never petitioned for intervention. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #38

We already send boatloads of military hardware. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #39

I meant it in the terms of equipping protesters or any such things some other party might Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #41

Yes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #43