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Art_from_Ark

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21. "Domestic" motives included fending off foreign religious zealots
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jul 2013

Having visited the monument to the 26 Martyrs in Nagasaki, I got the impression from locals that religious zealotry on the part of Spaniards and Portuguese played an important role in the expulsion of all Europeans from the main islands, while the Dutch, who didn't proselytize, were given trading privileges on a couple of islands off the coast of Kyushu. Of course, it was complicated, and Japan certainly did not want to become part of either the Spanish or Portuguese empires.

From the Wiki article about the 26 martyrs:

"The shogunate and imperial government at first supported the Catholic mission and the missionaries, thinking that they would reduce the power of the Buddhist monks, and help trade with Spain and Portugal. However, the Shogunate was also wary of colonialism, seeing that in the Philippines the Spanish had taken power after converting the population. The government increasingly saw Catholicism as a threat, and started persecuting Christians. Christianity was banned and those Japanese who refused to abandon their faith were killed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-six_Martyrs_of_Japan

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Oh, those poor prisons! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #1
Those soshulist you're-a-peons have no entrepreneurial spirit. trusty elf Jun 2013 #2
The Netherlands sounds like a cool country Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #3
well, that's just 'cause the bakufu didn't want the daimyo converting and having independent MisterP Jun 2013 #16
Well, gee, maybe they knew about what the Spaniards and Portuguese Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #19
despite the Iberian enormities in the Americas and Philippines, the shoguns' motives were domestic MisterP Jul 2013 #20
"Domestic" motives included fending off foreign religious zealots Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #21
The headline sounds almost Onionesque. n/t trusty elf Jun 2013 #4
It's wonderful. sibelian Jun 2013 #5
I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #11
Well, I don't want to be Pollyanna-ish sibelian Jun 2013 #18
Doesn't it, though? Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #10
This could never happen here burnodo Jun 2013 #6
Except for the lieutenant governor of my state. TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #7
We could offer to send them our banksters and war criminals. trusty elf Jun 2013 #8
If we did that, The Netherlands would need to build more prisons. Orrex Jun 2013 #9
This is from 19/5/2009 and is posted in an "archief" (archive). SwissTony Jun 2013 #12
Oh, you're right. trusty elf Jun 2013 #14
They just didn't grasp the beauty of privatizing the prison system. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #13
They got weed and good jobs and most importantly good will towards each other Rain Mcloud Jun 2013 #15
OMG, these people need to make pot a felony and protesting a bank the same as treason STAT! ck4829 Jun 2013 #17
the Netherlands' religious tolerance thing is true, to some extent, but elehhhhna Jul 2013 #22
You stayed! sibelian Jul 2013 #23
lol elehhhhna Jul 2013 #24
It's allowed. sibelian Jul 2013 #25
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