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caseymoz

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61. Smokescreen.

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:24 AM

Jul 2013

Though Putin gave him an open message when he said stop making Washington angry. He was telling Snowden to shut up and get back underground.

I think Russia and Ecuador hadn't planned on Snowden breaking to the surface again, so now they're doing their best song-and-dance. I mean, they had him well hid. Nobody knew where he was. I think whatever they're saying now, it's because Snowden is unwisely not staying out of sight and out of mind. I mean, just Friday, Obama was saying Snowden was no big issue. I thought the government, at least the politicians, wanted him forgotten as an embarrassment.

But I knew there was trouble Saturday when his father spoke to the press about negotiating with US government about his son's terms for surrender. He made demands like no gag order. Not a good move, and it shows he doesn't understand how poor his hand is dealing with the US government.

I admire what the guy did, but he's ill-equipped emotionally for major international intrigue, no doubt about it.

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"Uh Oh … Ecuador Throws Snowden Under Bus" [View all] Cha Jul 2013 OP

Sounds like Assange is running the show in London... SidDithers Jul 2013 #1

Sid, I love your tag line! It's funny and sad. People started throwing around the.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #3

Thanks!... SidDithers Jul 2013 #14

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Wonder how much interference Ecuador is going to put up with... SidDithers Jul 2013 #16

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It's new. Changed it about 5 minutes ago... SidDithers Jul 2013 #11

It captures it beautifully, Sid.. Cha Jul 2013 #22

Snort~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #27

That sig line tammywammy Jul 2013 #12

Heheh... SidDithers Jul 2013 #17

yeah, well played on the sig. arely staircase Jul 2013 #64

Guess the world is not opening their arms to the criminal, he has betrayed his country and would Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #2

Indeed, who knows where he'll end up? Right now he's doing some major whining and Cha Jul 2013 #4

I thought it was interesting he now tells Obama how to do his job when Snowden screwed up what he Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #9

Yeah, "Obama's messing with my getaway".. wah wah wah.. "I'm not hiding from Justice" Cha Jul 2013 #15

Maybe he should have called the wahambulance flamingdem Jul 2013 #35

Leaker is using inflamatory anti-Obama rhetoric to get his Cha Jul 2013 #41

Hadn't quite seen that, could it be GeeGee coming up with that copy? flamingdem Jul 2013 #47

It's unfreaking real. Ass-ange and Snowden are so mad.. Cha Jul 2013 #50

I predicted that wherever he winds up, he'll be closely monitored, and they probably.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #6

Word is that Evo Morales might take him flamingdem Jul 2013 #29

OMG. It's just gets worse, doesn't it? Fuckin' Bolivia? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #33

I can believe it. Bolivia is very pissed at the USA and Kerry called them flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Well, I wish him the best of luck with that! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #42

He sure hadn't considered that doing what he did would make him not very trustworthy to other VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #52

Well they must be spending some extra rubles on his security flamingdem Jul 2013 #57

Why? Did the U.S. cancel a big guacamole order, or something?? Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #56

Whether Snowden gets asylum or not doesn't matter one wit as the fact is...ALL the data he Purveyor Jul 2013 #5

I think everyone assumes any secrets he had have already been given up. Hence, the.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #10

Well, he will certainly have a footnote in history in regards USA hypocrisy and the Purveyor Jul 2013 #31

This board sounds creepily like the Ron/Rand Paul site. "Constitution". "Illegal... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #38

Yes, many such as you attempt to stifle debate on this situation by invoking names such as Purveyor Jul 2013 #53

Quite the opposite, they're certainly not "stifled" here. In fact, they brag about it. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #59

+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2013 #65

Snowden got his order messed up. David__77 Jul 2013 #13

True! flamingdem Jul 2013 #25

serves him right for besmirching Obama n/t Enrique Jul 2013 #18

He's not besmirching, he's whining. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #24

Snowden's lying.. says "he's not hiding from justice" from the Moscow Airport. Cha Jul 2013 #26

He also seems to think "passport = citizenship" so much for what he thinks! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #68

The real bottom line is that CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #19

They're still discussing his fate in Moscow flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

"These world leaders may be many things, but gullible isn't one of them." Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #28

Exactly what Greenwald and Assange will do as well VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #69

Putin actually said Snowden could stay but he had to stop LEAKS Cha Jul 2013 #32

Assange and his buddy Narvaez have some 'splainin flamingdem Jul 2013 #20

Snowden had a special whine for VP Biden.. Cha Jul 2013 #36

Excellent. Oldies but badies. This lets us know Biden really did change Correa's tune flamingdem Jul 2013 #39

I gotta love Joe! Joe and Barack.. got our backs! nm Cha Jul 2013 #45

Thank god for that sheshe2 Jul 2013 #54

Thanks she.. Cha Jul 2013 #55

Bingo! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #58

There is an echo in here. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #21

From the pop-up ad... kentuck Jul 2013 #30

Ecuador is the hotspot for retirement now flamingdem Jul 2013 #40

I hear Somalia is a Libertarian paradise railsback Jul 2013 #34

Maybe Uganda? flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

The shitter seems like a good home for a lil' leaker railsback Jul 2013 #49

What Snowden is going for is.. to get his fans' wallets Cha Jul 2013 #44

Oh Lord, that's all we need. They'd swear Obama put 'em up to it, and made it look.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #46

All I see is Wiki going all Greenwald railsback Jul 2013 #48

Wiki jumped on this kid's bandwagon, precisely because they were increasingly irrelevant. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #51

It's so sad to see how far we've fallen..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #60

Smokescreen. caseymoz Jul 2013 #61

Weird responses on this thread. go west young man Jul 2013 #62

We have intelligent posters on this thread who are not taken in by Cha Jul 2013 #63

If Bush was in power, it would be exactly the opposite LittleBlue Jul 2013 #66

A bit of hyperbole? DU was never the place for groupthink that you're romanticizing. There has.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #67