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In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman "testified" in his Second Degree Murder trial today. He won't have to again. [View all]lumpy
(13,704 posts)89. Humans are not deer or elk and no way can they run 100yards.
Zimmerman did not testify that Martin talked gibberish; on the contrary, Zimmerman made I,m sure we would like to see proof that a dying person can sit up and and make statements such as 'you got me, man' carrying a bullet straight through the heart.
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George Zimmerman "testified" in his Second Degree Murder trial today. He won't have to again. [View all]
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
OP
I totally agree. The MOMENT he pulled the trigger it was manslaughter.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#2
You can't make both arguments at once. A second degree closing won't be the right one to get
dkf
Jul 2013
#16
Actually YES it can....I was on a jury for a murder trial. The accused was charged with first degree
VanillaRhapsody
Jul 2013
#146
Manslaughter is on the table. If the jury finds him guilty of manslaughter he'll get 30 years. nt
Tx4obama
Jul 2013
#22
Don't be stupid. SYG was taken off the table a long time ago by Z's lawyers.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#5
That's a pretty cynical view if you ask me; the State giving up a life for a "loftier" goal.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#8
I thought as much... but my opinion stands: This isn't about SYG nor were the charges. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#12
What does it matter how long it took to charge? Isn't it more important to get it right?
dkf
Jul 2013
#30
The injuries, and his statement that he was afraid TM would go after his gun seem enough to me.
dkf
Jul 2013
#78
If he was afraid for his life he could have gotten off of Martin and taken a hike
lumpy
Jul 2013
#98
I pray to God you are either Bernie De La Ronda or John Guy and you use this in your closing.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jul 2013
#126
No forensic evidence of injuries to Martin except that he was shot dead by Zimmerman.
yardwork
Jul 2013
#151
I guess you missed the part of the testimony where the first officer on the scene described Z's
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#19
All it proves it that they were both rolling around on the ground before Zimmerman shot Trayvon
Tx4obama
Jul 2013
#26
No, I'll just quote your conclusion "indicating that he was on his back struggling."
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#54
In which case I was mistaken. He drew a conclusion and I was wrong in saying it was you. They way
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#59
Yeh, and the first intervening officers were ready to shoot Trayvon who was aready
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#48
Nor does he have to. He did, however testify today, without significant inconsistencies.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#25
I'm not putting words into your mouth. You said he didn't say anything to indicate
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#35
I don't know what the dying black youth said. Nor do you. Is it possible he said "You SHOT me"?
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#43
But things would have been much clearer for Zimmerman because he wasn't drunk or stoned.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#46
So you are saying that what Zimmy "testified" to today was not really what happened?
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#49
I'm saying he may have "misunderHEARD" given the gravity of the moment and adrenaline.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#58
He misheard "oh gosh, you got me" and testified that is what he heard? Any possibility he is not
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#62
Well, that is the first time I've read that is what he said and while that makes more
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#110
The question isn't whether or not Zimmerman KILLED Trayvon. We know he did.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#69
He's guilty of manslaughter and I will clap with glee if that's what he's convicted of.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#76
The language. Have you heard a Teen say "oh gosh" any time recently? In the 21st century?
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#56
Trayvon said "last breath, you got me"? What? How about "let's splash, you are all wet"?
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#64
Downthread he says TM said "rather last breath, you got me". Golly jeepers!
uppityperson
Jul 2013
#65
I don't think most jurors would have a hard time figuring out how to take his response
Azathoth
Jul 2013
#92
Yes, I saw it. 100% zimmerman guilty and Serano thought so. Zimmy is a pathelogical liar imho
graham4anything
Jul 2013
#119
he qualified it with saying "if you don't believe he is a liar" well, zimmy lied and Trayvon died.
graham4anything
Jul 2013
#135