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kentuck

(115,407 posts) Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:21 AM Jul 2013

Who did more damage to the security of this country: George W Bush or Edward J Snowden? [View all]

In an interview yesterday, former PResident George W Bush said that Snowden had damaged our security that he had put in place to protect our country. Also, he said he had protected our civil liberties.

Who did more damage to our nation?

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Who did more damage to the security of this country: George W Bush or Edward J Snowden? [View all] kentuck Jul 2013 OP

So far, it's looking like George W. Bush treestar Jul 2013 #1

Bush In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #2

Obviously Snowden. We'd just be obliviously moving along if not for him. Pholus Jul 2013 #3

Snowden's illegal war, illegal spying on US, war crimes, and destruction of the economy think Jul 2013 #4

And he thinks the Constitution is "just a piece of paper"... kentuck Jul 2013 #6

While Bush warned us that they hate our freedom and spoke truth to power to expose the excesses think Jul 2013 #10

GWB. Without him and the Patriot Act, the material that Snowden Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #5

Best reason and reply here. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #26

Without W, there would be no Snowden. baldguy Jul 2013 #7

Exactly. In light of this shouldn't we be working to curtial the abuses started under Bush? think Jul 2013 #9

You make a good point. kentuck Jul 2013 #11

Metadata isn't privileged info. Collecting it is not spying baldguy Jul 2013 #15

Secret law is unAmerican. Gag orders hide the truth. Laws can be unethical & unconstitutional think Jul 2013 #16

So you think that "Gentlemen should not read other gentlemen's mail"? baldguy Jul 2013 #17

Gag orders on whistleblowers prevent people learning how gentleman abuse the shit out of the law think Jul 2013 #19

It's his schtick LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #37

So I've seen. Yet still I'm sure the OP & I agree on many other issues think Jul 2013 #41

Your insinuation that I am calling Obama a nazi is offensive and way off base /nt think Jul 2013 #21

I apologize. You did not specify that Obama was a Nazi. baldguy Jul 2013 #23

Maybe not but you sure were blitzkrieged with bullshit. great white snark Jul 2013 #24

The user name is fitting /nt think Jul 2013 #36

I refer to a system that has been in place for way before Obama think Jul 2013 #34

This goes way beyond "a cop taking down car makes/models" Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #39

Links? baldguy Jul 2013 #42

"used to SPY on US" and our taxes pay for it!!! Now how Orwellian is that? I wish HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #25

Barack Obama administration ceonupe Jul 2013 #8

That's just incredibly delusional. -eom gcomeau Jul 2013 #29

I don't know if we'll ever recover from Bush deutsey Jul 2013 #12

Excellent analogy. kentuck Jul 2013 #13

Agreed Tippy Jul 2013 #14

The only way we could have recovered from Bush would have been to place his HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #28

As much as I'm not a fan of Snowden Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #18

Kentuck, why are these kinds of questions raised on relatively obscure HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #20

Ronald Reagan. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #22

Please... Bush has no parallel. gcomeau Jul 2013 #27

the answer if President Obama gets torn down is easily JEB BUSH/RAND PAUL in 2016. graham4anything Jul 2013 #30

two worngs don't make a right, even if * wrong was on a much larger scale. dionysus Jul 2013 #31

Bush hands down. Snowmen on the other hand helped the country on point Jul 2013 #32

Damage SamKnause Jul 2013 #33

Strange... whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #35

Bush. But Snowden still needs to go to jail. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #38

Which did more damage to reasoned discourse in this country: OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #40

I trust that's a rhetorical question. The answer is obvious. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #43