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10. While Bush warned us that they hate our freedom and spoke truth to power to expose the excesses

Reply to kentuck (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:58 AM

Jul 2013

of a secret religion gone rouge....

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Who did more damage to the security of this country: George W Bush or Edward J Snowden? [View all] kentuck Jul 2013 OP

So far, it's looking like George W. Bush treestar Jul 2013 #1

Bush In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #2

Obviously Snowden. We'd just be obliviously moving along if not for him. Pholus Jul 2013 #3

Snowden's illegal war, illegal spying on US, war crimes, and destruction of the economy think Jul 2013 #4

And he thinks the Constitution is "just a piece of paper"... kentuck Jul 2013 #6

While Bush warned us that they hate our freedom and spoke truth to power to expose the excesses think Jul 2013 #10

GWB. Without him and the Patriot Act, the material that Snowden Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #5

Best reason and reply here. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #26

Without W, there would be no Snowden. baldguy Jul 2013 #7

Exactly. In light of this shouldn't we be working to curtial the abuses started under Bush? think Jul 2013 #9

You make a good point. kentuck Jul 2013 #11

Metadata isn't privileged info. Collecting it is not spying baldguy Jul 2013 #15

Secret law is unAmerican. Gag orders hide the truth. Laws can be unethical & unconstitutional think Jul 2013 #16

So you think that "Gentlemen should not read other gentlemen's mail"? baldguy Jul 2013 #17

Gag orders on whistleblowers prevent people learning how gentleman abuse the shit out of the law think Jul 2013 #19

It's his schtick LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #37

So I've seen. Yet still I'm sure the OP & I agree on many other issues think Jul 2013 #41

Your insinuation that I am calling Obama a nazi is offensive and way off base /nt think Jul 2013 #21

I apologize. You did not specify that Obama was a Nazi. baldguy Jul 2013 #23

Maybe not but you sure were blitzkrieged with bullshit. great white snark Jul 2013 #24

The user name is fitting /nt think Jul 2013 #36

I refer to a system that has been in place for way before Obama think Jul 2013 #34

This goes way beyond "a cop taking down car makes/models" Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #39

Links? baldguy Jul 2013 #42

"used to SPY on US" and our taxes pay for it!!! Now how Orwellian is that? I wish HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #25

Barack Obama administration ceonupe Jul 2013 #8

That's just incredibly delusional. -eom gcomeau Jul 2013 #29

I don't know if we'll ever recover from Bush deutsey Jul 2013 #12

Excellent analogy. kentuck Jul 2013 #13

Agreed Tippy Jul 2013 #14

The only way we could have recovered from Bush would have been to place his HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #28

As much as I'm not a fan of Snowden Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #18

Kentuck, why are these kinds of questions raised on relatively obscure HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #20

Ronald Reagan. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #22

Please... Bush has no parallel. gcomeau Jul 2013 #27

the answer if President Obama gets torn down is easily JEB BUSH/RAND PAUL in 2016. graham4anything Jul 2013 #30

two worngs don't make a right, even if * wrong was on a much larger scale. dionysus Jul 2013 #31

Bush hands down. Snowmen on the other hand helped the country on point Jul 2013 #32

Damage SamKnause Jul 2013 #33

Strange... whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #35

Bush. But Snowden still needs to go to jail. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #38

Which did more damage to reasoned discourse in this country: OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #40

I trust that's a rhetorical question. The answer is obvious. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #43