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44. Propaganda, jealousy, and/or lack of information

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:56 AM

Jul 2013

Propaganda: The right wing / corporate noise machine is non stop with union workers are lazy, they cost you money, unions aren't needed any more ("there are laws to protect workers now&quot , and so on. It sickens me when I hear ordinary people repeat this garbage.

Jealousy: This usually comes from people complaining about teacher pay. They will often let it slip that they work 12 months a year and earn less than a teacher who doesn't work in summer. Well then you should have been a teacher huh? Guess you couldn't hack it.

Lack of information: Union workers so disengaged they think the union does nothing for them and then complain about their dues being wasted. My mother worked in a hospital for over 40 years and I asked her if she was part of the union there and she said "yeah but I didn't want to be" (must have been a fair share agreement). I'm sure she would have figured out in a hurry those union dues would have been better than a huge pay or benefit cut...

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Why are so many Americans fearful/resentful of unions? [View all] alp227 Jul 2013 OP

Because they are susceptible to propaganda. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #1

Precisely Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #3

Yes - Was Exactly My First Thought cantbeserious Jul 2013 #18

Especially any propaganda that portrays them as self-sufficient masters-of-their-own-domain. Squinch Jul 2013 #25

The media telling them what they should think liberal N proud Jul 2013 #27

+1 emulatorloo Jul 2013 #77

There is a problem in some places Jenoch Jul 2013 #2

When you make promises you keep them. Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #5

I'm referring to local Jenoch Jul 2013 #6

I don't see what the problem is Bradical79 Jul 2013 #17

+1000 Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #10

I must disagree Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #9

Tough shit. These workers took concessions along the way in exchange for those pensions Doctor_J Jul 2013 #13

I agree. Dash87 Jul 2013 #30

The FAILURE of our Government to COLLECT taxes from Corporations/business/1% MichiganVote Jul 2013 #33

Thank you ellie Jul 2013 #38

Yes, and... GoCubsGo Jul 2013 #40

Thank you. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #62

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2013 #51

You know, I will talk to my locals nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #60

Once the retirement benefits are agreed on Enthusiast Jul 2013 #71

Gov. Corbett, is that you? Because you must've forgotten that WE PAID FOR THEM. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #74

That's something the Limbeciles seem to forget Doctor_J Jul 2013 #78

What a bunch of bs. Apophis Jul 2013 #75

Bullcrap. A talking point straight from the RMS. Doremus Jul 2013 #89

two reasons. years of repetitious propaganda & the fact that some unions are corrupt in HiPointDem Jul 2013 #4

Horror stories about incompetence being rewarded... Pelican Jul 2013 #7

I wish people would take a few minutes to think.. Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #8

+1 n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #37

Cold War Propaganda plus media brainwashing Taft_Bathtub Jul 2013 #11

+1 Populist_Prole Jul 2013 #12

Like most of the devolution of the US, it can be traced to Big Media Doctor_J Jul 2013 #14

Their talking points are more extensive than bluedeathray Jul 2013 #15

Two reasons--It takes some balls to strike for decent wages and benefits, and.... dmosh42 Jul 2013 #16

Right wing/anti-Communist-Socialist/class warfare propaganda Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #19

And a low IQ Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #39

You can't trust reader comments. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #20

They know nothing about the history of labor. Ilsa Jul 2013 #21

You got it exactly Dantheman65 Jul 2013 #35

PsyOps and disinfo TransitJohn Jul 2013 #22

Raised WOBBLY here, and disappointed ... mntleo2 Jul 2013 #23

Your grandfather had good worker wisdom there.. Pholus Jul 2013 #26

Yes, this is why some resent teachers all right ... mntleo2 Jul 2013 #36

that is heartbreaking jollyreaper2112 Jul 2013 #28

Not only did this happen, they got rewarded and promoted! mntleo2 Jul 2013 #43

For the same reason that the pots in which you boil crabs don't need lids. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #53

LOL! Something for nothing ... mntleo2 Jul 2013 #61

self centered, in that the inconvenience of the strike impacts them treestar Jul 2013 #24

I am confused because you seemed to be against the BART strike in you LBN thread maddezmom Jul 2013 #29

Yeah, I'd like some more explanation about that too. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #63

jealousy handmade34 Jul 2013 #31

Exactly right. GoCubsGo Jul 2013 #41

I am 64 years old. All my life radio and TV have aired about rurallib Jul 2013 #32

IMO: Unions need to evolve & improve their messaging. Also the propaganda think Jul 2013 #34

It needed to be said. I'd highlight a further problem. Chan790 Jul 2013 #47

Thank you for the input. think Jul 2013 #50

work on the message - exactly Locrian Jul 2013 #48

Just how are they going to "improve their message" when Big Business own ALL of the media Doctor_J Jul 2013 #79

I did mention social media. And yes it's very tough when the M$M controls the knobs think Jul 2013 #83

I can't speak for everywhere Sgent Jul 2013 #42

where Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #52

Propaganda, jealousy, and/or lack of information MillennialDem Jul 2013 #44

same reason people fear the bogyman markiv Jul 2013 #45

Reagan was Screen Actor's Guild president (a Union), and a Democrat markiv Jul 2013 #46

'be a good worker' -> that's what tech workers did markiv Jul 2013 #49

Same thing the VFX people in Hollywood are going through now. Chan790 Jul 2013 #54

In my industry abelenkpe Jul 2013 #55

I think mostly because so few people belong to one today ... frazzled Jul 2013 #56

People hate unions - until they join one leftstreet Jul 2013 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #57

Personally, I drive a couple Chevys Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #67

Uh huh. Bye. Thanks MIRT uppityperson Jul 2013 #68

the right has done a good job at falsely portraying union workers as lazy. dionysus Jul 2013 #58

They are bombarded with anti-union propagada from the M$M n/t usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #59

You posted anti-strike editorial on your BART story in LBN. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #65

From personal experience telclaven Jul 2013 #66

Example of contrived anti-labor propaganda. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #76

Yeah I think he pulled that off of FoxNation or Glenn Beck Doctor_J Jul 2013 #82

Contrived? telclaven Jul 2013 #86

Here's the deal, one that you don't seem to recognize. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #87

Don't believe I said either of those quotes telclaven Jul 2013 #91

And I knew you would say that about the quotes. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #94

It's a word NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #92

you sound like someone whose worst expectations were fulfilled librechik Jul 2013 #81

M'kay, whatever telclaven Jul 2013 #85

Man if these morons think the workers are striking because they have a "good job with good pay"... Initech Jul 2013 #69

They have been subjected to the most massive propaganda campaign in all of history. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #70

Two reasons: corruption/nepotism, and the sense that "Unions got theirs and aren't helping me" Recursion Jul 2013 #72

Greed and stupidity would be my first thoughts. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #73

Highly successful propaganda programs, if not psyops. n/t librechik Jul 2013 #80

Unions have done a great job of raising working standards and wages for Americans, however... DrewFlorida Jul 2013 #84

Colonized minds roody Jul 2013 #88

I can't speak for the rest of the country but..... justanaverageguy Jul 2013 #90

because they have had bad experiences with unions?? HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #93

Propaganda Marrah_G Jul 2013 #95