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17. White makes right?

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Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:33 PM

Jul 2013

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If Zimmerman walks what message is sent to African Americans [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 OP

It tells us nothing JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #1

It says open season on them if you live in Florida. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #2

I don't think this is a matter of "sent to," as much as it is "recieved from." ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #3

Whatever the verdict, the message for me is that we need gun control. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #4

I tend to agree with you Just Saying Jul 2013 #77

Prisons aren't to send messages, but to punish criminals. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #5

And when criminals walk, a message is sent n/t DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #7

A criminal who walks isn't a criminal. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #28

There is a difference between innocent and not guilty. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #35

Exactly. Just Saying Jul 2013 #78

You said: "A CRIMINAL who walks isn't a criminal". Now repeat that several times. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #55

That might be useful advice if I weren't quoting you. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #75

So Casey was innocent in your opinion? Just Saying Jul 2013 #80

My opinion is immaterial. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #82

I agree with you that a jury can't consider that. Just Saying Jul 2013 #87

I never suggested the jury should consider the societal impact of their decision DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #91

Uh, that's not what you wrote (Post #28). Maybe you should go back and correct it... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #86

Perhaps Zimmerman shouldn't have rushed to judgement. Just Saying Jul 2013 #79

Failing that, the defendant is assumed not guilty by the court gollygee Jul 2013 #81

Not exactly true. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #53

The penalty for committing a crime is the deterrent, and the message. Verdicts are not. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #64

That's entirely possible. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #70

Fully agreed. nt lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #76

Prisons are a private enterprise. Prison is business.nt Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #60

Same one that was sent when the cops who beat Rodney King walked KamaAina Jul 2013 #6

This time though, they have new and improved riot control they want to practice with siligut Jul 2013 #20

But, NOLALady Jul 2013 #104

Same thing as what happened in Miami in the '80s. RebelOne Jul 2013 #30

I hope there is no Liberty City Riot ll DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #44

There is no message. You can't generalize anything from a specific case that hangs on nitty gritty dkf Jul 2013 #8

You should post this JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #9

Please feel free to re-post it DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #13

Nooo JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #22

Done DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #24

It will prove (again) that not everyone avebury Jul 2013 #10

Probably the same message pipi_k Jul 2013 #11

It tells them to stay out of Florida. Cleita Jul 2013 #12

If you are unarmed in Florida, HockeyMom Jul 2013 #14

So gun violence has increased in Florida? nt hack89 Jul 2013 #19

Justifiable homicides HockeyMom Jul 2013 #23

Are you aware of the actual criteria for reporting a killing as a Justifiable Homicide? hack89 Jul 2013 #27

BS HockeyMom Jul 2013 #31

That is the official Florida manual on crime reports hack89 Jul 2013 #33

Thank you that at least you didn't question my stats HockeyMom Jul 2013 #37

You are missing my point hack89 Jul 2013 #41

I will never get out of my car in Florida HockeyMom Jul 2013 #48

There are 40 "shall issue" states hack89 Jul 2013 #54

Most of us don't study that crap because we don't carry guns and Hoyt Jul 2013 #63

I understand that laws, data and statistics are beneath you hack89 Jul 2013 #71

Hack, the only people who care are those who arm up and train to shoot people. Hoyt Jul 2013 #73

Ah Hoyt - please don't ever change. hack89 Jul 2013 #74

It will tell them their children are worthless. And living in Florida "good luck with that". Tikki Jul 2013 #15

Nothing other than what we already know. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2013 #16

White makes right? immoderate Jul 2013 #17

Individual cases aren't tried in order to send a message Bake Jul 2013 #18

Nothing they don't already know. Brickbat Jul 2013 #21

That WWB (Walking While Black) is dangerous ... frazzled Jul 2013 #25

Individual trials are horrible ways to "send a message" Recursion Jul 2013 #26

Your children aren't safe HockeyMom Jul 2013 #29

That six women in Florida didn't agree with the DA. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #32

And I'll just bet pipi_k Jul 2013 #36

Sanford where the trial occurred is thirty percent African American DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #43

Prosecution looks incompetent to me. woolldog Jul 2013 #66

They probably used all their peremptory challenges and this jury was what's left. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #72

No clue... pipi_k Jul 2013 #96

Striking a juror because of his of her race violates the 14th Amendment DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #100

If I am... pipi_k Jul 2013 #102

If DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #103

Yup. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #67

It says the Prosecution did not prove its case. badtoworse Jul 2013 #34

Despite the meme, we don't live in "post-racial america" RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #38

the message is: nothing has changed noiretextatique Jul 2013 #39

Message: If you don't like the way an AA person looks, shoot them. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #40

I agree. HappyMe Jul 2013 #46

We are not looking for a message.... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #42

One message that is sent: In Florida a guilty verdict requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Vattel Jul 2013 #45

You last sentence holds true for me HockeyMom Jul 2013 #50

Don't buy Skittles... truebrit71 Jul 2013 #47

+1, but in this case your screwed if your AA and buy skittles uponit7771 Jul 2013 #49

OPEN SEASON!!!!! WovenGems Jul 2013 #51

Get Gun and Stand My Ground ... Cigar11 Jul 2013 #52

The message will be: "It's open season" FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #56

The indictment demonstrated that not to be true jberryhill Jul 2013 #59

The message is that suspected crimes are subject to trial jberryhill Jul 2013 #57

The message was sent way before the trial. Scootaloo Jul 2013 #58

Message to black Americans: Your lives don't mean shit! We can shoot you on the spot for no reason.. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #61

I'd guess the same message that was sen to Jewish-Americans. .. egduj Jul 2013 #62

You think OJ's killings were motivated by anti-semitism? FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #94

I suppose that most of White America Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #65

What message? Shoot first and then claim you were standing your ground. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #68

i wonder about that too. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #69

when you teach kids about strangers who follow you , exceptions have to be made for black boys JI7 Jul 2013 #83

It wouldn't send a great message to white people, either. aquart Jul 2013 #84

the message is the fear and racism of gun humpers trumps all Skittles Jul 2013 #85

The same message that is sent daily in Chicago, that life is cheap. Beacool Jul 2013 #88

I have heard this argument many times. I don't get it DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #92

No, but the far more frequent issue is not being addressed. Beacool Jul 2013 #98

I think it will simply reinforce the pre-existing message that... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #89

As a black man, it'll tell me that any paranoid yahoo with a gun can shoot Apophis Jul 2013 #90

The message is the Prosecution in this case failed to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt lawwolf Jul 2013 #93

That ship already sailed. zwannabe got to go home ecstatic Jul 2013 #95

I'm hoping your Redondo Beach friend reconsiders. surrealAmerican Jul 2013 #97

What message? Orsino Jul 2013 #99

If you're African-American, living in Florida, and SYG is still in effect, you're screwed. no_hypocrisy Jul 2013 #101

Stand your Ground has nothing to do with this. nt. naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #106

What message are you trying to send? hfojvt Jul 2013 #105

That the prosecutors in his trial are rivaling OJ Simpson's prosecutors in terms of ineptitude? Arkana Jul 2013 #107