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NM_Birder

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54. Zimmerman is not a hero to responsible gun owners, nor CC citizens.

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:13 PM

Jul 2013

Zimmerman personifies the very opposite of a responsible gun owner, and most especially and specifically the opposite of responsible conceal carry citizen. Conceal Carry is for protection of person, not property,.. and the safety of me and mine....not the application of the law and my suspicions of another person, that's what a police department and criminal justice system is for.

Zimmerman wrongfully killed Martin, he had no cause to confront him about anything, he is absolutely guilty of wrongful homicide, (or whatever the actual legal term is). Pretending he is a hero to a "gun culture" I take as inflammatory, and an insult.

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Is the Zimmerman prosecutor throwing the case? [View all] kudzu22 Jul 2013 OP

The State had to be forced to bring charges montanacowboy Jul 2013 #1

How would that reinforce Stand Your Ground? It's not being used. onehandle Jul 2013 #3

Zimmerman is not a hero to responsible gun owners, nor CC citizens. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #54

He was a buddy with the cops, but not just an ordinary one. His father is a retired judge. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #63

They aren't losing but if they were, why would anyone lose on purpose? KurtNYC Jul 2013 #2

Yeah, they are losing at this point, premium Jul 2013 #18

Let's remember that the Defense opened with a joke insulting the jury KurtNYC Jul 2013 #24

Opening the defense with a joke is irrelevant at this point premium Jul 2013 #30

The comedians on the Defense team still have their work cut out for them KurtNYC Jul 2013 #34

We shall see. nt. premium Jul 2013 #35

They are going through the motions, but their heart is not in it. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #4

Yeah, the prosecutor is going to take a hit on his career for some low intelligence snooper2 Jul 2013 #5

Prosecutors are assigned to cases, aren't they? Want a conviction, assign the best you've got. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #10

Generally if it's a high profile case, the head DA will take it him/her self ... Myrina Jul 2013 #31

I grant that the state's case isn't complete yet kudzu22 Jul 2013 #6

Rachel Jeantel was the "star witness". Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #7

According to whom? dpibel Jul 2013 #58

And NONE of that was UNDER OATH! Roland99 Jul 2013 #12

But it can still be evidence kudzu22 Jul 2013 #15

Only insomuch as it is a Felony to make a false statement to police. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #17

But if he had been Mirandized anything he says can be used against him. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #70

Why would they play the tape of GZ's interview by police? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #19

I agree. There are inconsistencies in that video LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #39

Because Zimmerman hangs himself in that tape KurtNYC Jul 2013 #25

But why play the whole tape? kudzu22 Jul 2013 #27

Zim is not taking the stand in this trial so the tape is the only way KurtNYC Jul 2013 #29

Ok, I see your point kudzu22 Jul 2013 #48

They never wanted to bring this charge LittleBlue Jul 2013 #8

How? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #14

Well, if it's your OBJECTIVE opinion... brooklynite Jul 2013 #9

They mainstream media may be convincing them moondust Jul 2013 #11

Did you ever get a haircut? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #13

I can't help but do a little armchair lawyering kudzu22 Jul 2013 #20

What I think the State might be doing... IphengeniaBlumgarten Jul 2013 #26

That's what I'm thinking. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #37

Yes.. Laying the groundwork LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #42

If so and the prosecutor is a chess-master, it is not necessary for the prosecutor to allow the AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #59

The prosecution is getting on my last nerve. avebury Jul 2013 #16

Jeantel *has* an attorney B2G Jul 2013 #21

It appears that he did not serve her very well. nt avebury Jul 2013 #22

Jesus H Christ, then he doesn't know crap about preparing a witness for court. JimDandy Jul 2013 #40

I have yet to see a prosecution witness michreject Jul 2013 #23

I think jenteal helped naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #41

She did a good job and absolutely did help. The prosecution JimDandy Jul 2013 #44

She admitted to telling two lies under oath michreject Jul 2013 #71

Sure, naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #74

I tend to think so. Myrina Jul 2013 #28

I am not convinced that there was ever enough evidence... rollin74 Jul 2013 #32

It's my belief that the DA's office caved to public pressure premium Jul 2013 #38

I tend to agree rollin74 Jul 2013 #50

I see that you have the Nevada State Flag as your avatar. premium Jul 2013 #53

Washoe County. near Reno rollin74 Jul 2013 #55

I used to patrol that area when I was assigned premium Jul 2013 #56

That was my thought earlier Faux pas Jul 2013 #33

I too pipi_k Jul 2013 #36

Many people thought the the prosecutors Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2013 #43

No, the defense attorney is throwing it. He knows it is a no-win. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #45

And you're basing this on what? premium Jul 2013 #46

His opening "knock-knock" joke. I don't think he's in tune with what's going on. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #49

The joke is irrelevant, way past that. premium Jul 2013 #51

No proof, just observation. He's practically comotose. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #57

Ok. premium Jul 2013 #60

Yeah, wild accusation. But he used to be animated and now he's a zombie. Something's up. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #65

Yeah, lawyers don't like their clients premium Jul 2013 #66

Hence the thought that they drugged him up to keep his mouth quiet. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #67

Bennies? premium Jul 2013 #69

Benzodiazapines EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #72

I doubt that. The trial has made me suspect that the reason they initially didn't want to go to... JVS Jul 2013 #47

2nd degree was over-charged HockeyMom Jul 2013 #52

They'll be lucky to get manslaughter at this point BainsBane Jul 2013 #62

Lesser included charge, lesser included charge, lesser included charge. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #64

the cops threw it BainsBane Jul 2013 #61

Maybe. But, imagine if they're being strategic... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #68

I don't know if 'on purpose' is the correct term etherealtruth Jul 2013 #73