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In reply to the discussion: Cenk Uygur on Melissa Harris-Perry: Obama Loyalists Attack Snowden... For Not Being MLK?! [View all]KeepItReal
(7,770 posts)33. Ad hominem attack much?
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Cenk Uygur on Melissa Harris-Perry: Obama Loyalists Attack Snowden... For Not Being MLK?! [View all]
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
OP
To be somewhat fair, Bush circumvented the court and had warrantless wiretapping.
JaneyVee
Jul 2013
#5
A warrant that covers everyone? You don't need a warrant for metadata, but you do for wiretapping
JaneyVee
Jul 2013
#9
You *do* need a warrant for metadata. That's why FISA was involved to begin with.
SlimJimmy
Jul 2013
#10
Oh, I absolutely agree with you, and have said so many times in quite a few threads. I was
SlimJimmy
Jul 2013
#89
Agreed, but the previous poster said that no warrant was needed at all. Even under
SlimJimmy
Jul 2013
#93
26 Sens.: NSA is relying on a "secret body of law" to collect massive amounts of data on US citizens
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#65
For them, it doesn't matter whether the next president is Christie, Jeb Bush, or Clinton.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#27
You like authoritarians who support the super-rich, job outsourcing, endless wars, ...
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#58
Have you ever been unhappy with authoritarians who support the super-rich, job outsourcing, endless
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#63
Please find and post a statement from Ellsberg critical of Snowden's asylum requests.
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#23
I talked with Ellsberg on Sunday while marching (well - he rode) together in the Bradley Manning
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#83
You're conflating the PowerPoint slide about Internet Providers with the telecom data.
randome
Jul 2013
#68
lol - twisting in the wind you are... how about 26 senators saying the NSA is SPYING on Americans?
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#70
There is plenty of evidence, you just refuse to see for some reason
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#75
26 Sens.: NSA is relying on a "secret body of law" to collect massive amounts of data on US citizens
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#67
Many people cite Ellsberg in their criticism of Snowden and don't even know where he stands on him.
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#38
Watching MSNBC during this period is what it must have been like to watch Fox during the Bush years.
The Link
Jul 2013
#13
You mean Cenk the "former" Republican doesn't respect MHP? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#30
He's more consistent than the "I'm a Blue Dog" and "Moderate Republican of the 80's" Democrat n/t.
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#32
I'm not surprised Cenk doesn't care much for MHP or Pres. Obama. It's in his DNA.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#47
It just so happens that you have problems with people that have been critical of Obama
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#62
But enough about me. Nothing about Cenk's sudden & inexplicable conversion?
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#66
You reply makes no sense. You can't refute the argument so you attack the messenger.
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#69
Well our President calls himself a moderate republican now. What can we assume about his motives?
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#80
What you don't get is that there was never an argument to be had. I know who Cenk is.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#86
If that's true, then win a fuckin' national election, why doncha? "Authoritarians & Totalitarians"?
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#78
we all have a role to play, mine is not in comforting them in their wrong-doing
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#81
Go win an election, then we might have something to talk about. Until then.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#85
It's always nice to see MLK and Rosa Parks used to defend the abuses of the powerful.
JVS
Jul 2013
#31
You defenders conveniently forget the 4 laptops & the little tryst with China & Russia, don't you?
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#44
You'd charge Ellsberg for the binders and paperclips he used to collect the Pentagon papers. n/t
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#46
Ellsberg didn't run off to China and tell them what we were doing in Vietnam.
Major Hogwash
Jul 2013
#82
As I expected, you completely evade the issue that's troubling even the most ardent Snowden....
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#84
I do not always agree with every decision Obama makes or every statement but since he
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#48
You can disagree but how do you disagree with yourself based on who's in office?
NOVA_Dem
Jul 2013
#61