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105. Yes, DIRTY WORK

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:52 PM

Jul 2013

You obviously know NOTHING about the laws in this town, or the story of rent control. BART unions are banking on that kind of ignorance. Luckily, its a small minority.

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I support the BART strike [View all] Taverner Jul 2013 OP

K&R Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #1

NMe too! burrowowl Jul 2013 #80

You drive, don't you? KamaAina Jul 2013 #2

I do both Taverner Jul 2013 #3

But you have the option to drive. KamaAina Jul 2013 #4

Take a shuttle into San Francisco... get dropped off on Market St. and take an AC transit bus to the Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #8

You mean the KX bus? KamaAina Jul 2013 #9

No. Take a private shuttle to Market St., then an AC bus to the East Bay... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #11

The private shuttles are hellishly expensive KamaAina Jul 2013 #13

Legally companies with fleets of a certain size must have an accessible vehicle. LeftyMom Jul 2013 #70

Some of them jerk us around with that "fleets of a certain size" KamaAina Jul 2013 #72

Oh ffs. Alternatives exist. Their imperfection is no reason to deny BART LeftyMom Jul 2013 #75

The party is also a gathering of the disability community KamaAina Jul 2013 #76

If you are so dependent on these workers you should support their cause. LeftyMom Jul 2013 #85

I. Do. Not. Have. A. Driver's. License. KamaAina Jul 2013 #89

BART workers took a pay freeze 5 years ago. They made $100 million in concessions 4 years ago to Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #5

Indeed they should KamaAina Jul 2013 #6

ATU has threatened to go on strike if progress is not made during negotiations... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #10

But the BART local did not KamaAina Jul 2013 #12

has it occurred to you that striking this week is less disruptive? CreekDog Jul 2013 #17

I was scheduled to be up there at, of all things, a transit workshop today KamaAina Jul 2013 #19

They've been negotiating for 3 months. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #20

Thanks, I didn't know what the issues were Warpy Jul 2013 #53

so strikes that don't inconvenience people are the only ones that should exist? CreekDog Jul 2013 #16

The OP is inconvenienced. KamaAina Jul 2013 #18

so you're asking BART workers to take the deal on the table CreekDog Jul 2013 #21

Certainly not the deal on the table. KamaAina Jul 2013 #22

Because the AC transit union is making some progress. The BART negotiations were stuck. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #23

I had heard that the pay offer had been doubled. KamaAina Jul 2013 #27

BART hasn't promised a raise. CreekDog Jul 2013 #30

Ouch. KamaAina Jul 2013 #31

Thanks for considering my thoughts on this CreekDog Jul 2013 #42

Well, you're one of the better DUers we've got KamaAina Jul 2013 #46

Thanks for the Peach metaphor, but BART workers cannot withhold peaches, they only have their labor CreekDog Jul 2013 #73

Actually, the unions are our frenemies KamaAina Jul 2013 #77

Yes. You know why you are screwed? It's very simple. CreekDog Jul 2013 #26

I understand this... Taverner Jul 2013 #48

VTA only runs down here in Silicon Valley KamaAina Jul 2013 #49

$38K in the Bay Area would be tough. REALLY tough. Taverner Jul 2013 #51

Tell me about it. KamaAina Jul 2013 #54

I know VTA and AC have Paraservices for those in wheelchairs Taverner Jul 2013 #57

You have to be eligible for paratransit KamaAina Jul 2013 #69

38k is a BART employee starting wage for many positions CreekDog Jul 2013 #94

"your post belongs on FR." My thoughts exactly. Apophis Jul 2013 #32

Update: She made it back. Seven hours later. KamaAina Jul 2013 #99

By god, if working people feel the need to strike then I support them. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #7

+1000. there are strikes all the time in France, and because of that workers have decent rights kath Jul 2013 #14

Well said, 1-Old-Man mokawanis Jul 2013 #29

Always. K&R Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #15

Bart workers are way overpaid, woolldog Jul 2013 #24

Wow. Apophis Jul 2013 #33

$19/hour is overpaid? CreekDog Jul 2013 #36

$19 an hour is certainly not overpaid. KamaAina Jul 2013 #52

An entry level position at BART is approximately $19/hour CreekDog Jul 2013 #59

In your job, do you face down possible death or injury from trains or passengers? Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #43

There is also the cleaning of the BART trains Taverner Jul 2013 #50

and actually, they've come up with a new material that is soft but non porous CreekDog Jul 2013 #74

Sigh - that is GOOD to know Taverner Jul 2013 #84

I'd much rather get on a BART train with employees under a solid union contract... Earth_First Jul 2013 #44

If by overpaid you mean $60K then you, my friend, are a miser Taverner Jul 2013 #47

Funny you'd choose Brian as an avatar. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #127

I strongly support them Populist_Prole Jul 2013 #25

Good. The only way for workers to get their fair share is to strike and take it! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #28

My living room is now a hotel Prism Jul 2013 #34

"A typical BART station agent or train operator is paid a salary in the low $60,000 range." Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #35

when do they want 23%? this year? CreekDog Jul 2013 #37

by the way, NYE BEVAN, if you're going to post anti worker stuff, we're gonna call you on it CreekDog Jul 2013 #38

Sorry, where did I "badmouth" anyone? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #39

$80K is nothing in the Bay Area Taverner Jul 2013 #40

So, would you support a strike by any worker in the Bay Area who is paid less than $80k? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #60

A better idea would be to raise the minimum wage to $80K in California and then the US Taverner Jul 2013 #62

How about something like $120K in SF, if $80k only gets you a studio there? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #66

Sounds like you're on the silly train right now Taverner Jul 2013 #67

That would be a princely wage in East Bumboink, Texas Warpy Jul 2013 #130

I'm in Omaha Steve Jul 2013 #41

I'm in! Earth_First Jul 2013 #45

Not only I support them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #55

Yup. We need a GENERAL STRIKE! Taverner Jul 2013 #56

Two exceptions to participation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #58

Power workers? Water utility? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #61

Yes and yes - if they are untreated fairly, they should strike Taverner Jul 2013 #64

I would not mind at all if the military went on strike Taverner Jul 2013 #63

Mutiny...don't see it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #65

+1 MzNov Jul 2013 #68

So do I. senseandsensibility Jul 2013 #71

How about a constructive suggestion? KamaAina Jul 2013 #78

The unions are generalizing stats, as if all are in the same boat railsback Jul 2013 #79

"I have friends here living in very sizable apartments paying on average $800." Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #87

Who's doing cocaine? railsback Jul 2013 #91

i've lived in the Bay Area most of my life and never lived in a rent-controlled property CreekDog Jul 2013 #95

LoL, you, too? railsback Jul 2013 #107

so you admit to posting the $800 apartment rent as some red herring to make the strike look selfish? CreekDog Jul 2013 #110

You certainly make a lot of assumptions railsback Jul 2013 #111

Actually, it's not longer an assumption, your post there and previous posts lay it all out CreekDog Jul 2013 #112

Maybe I should just start generalizing then railsback Jul 2013 #117

you're mistaken if you think your posts aren't sufficiently dumb CreekDog Jul 2013 #121

Well, if you think this is 'smart': railsback Jul 2013 #125

Unions dirty work? Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #98

Yes, DIRTY WORK railsback Jul 2013 #105

Dude. lol Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #106

More dirty work railsback Jul 2013 #108

Hahahahahaahah!!!!!!!! Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #114

Yeah, that is pretty funny that someone actually believe they're bestowed knowledge railsback Jul 2013 #116

IF we were to start on the list of all the things you got wrong in your post Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #120

It would all have to be lies to fit your meme railsback Jul 2013 #126

nah dog. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #131

i lost my rent-controlled apartment noiretextatique Jul 2013 #102

I'm sorry you lost your rent-controlled apartment railsback Jul 2013 #104

Only a dozen cities in all of California have rent control KamaAina Jul 2013 #119

Your rent numbers are much off Prism Jul 2013 #100

Anyone who thinks my posts belong on FR should take a gander at the comments section KamaAina Jul 2013 #81

Yeah, I've been monitoring the atmosphere here today railsback Jul 2013 #82

Let's be up front about what you're doing here --your quotes speak for themselves CreekDog Jul 2013 #88

Wow. You got me.. but I have an even better rant just above this railsback Jul 2013 #92

you complain about the tone here and 3 days ago said the unions were pulling serious f--king BS..." CreekDog Jul 2013 #101

That's such bullshit railsback Jul 2013 #109

you complained about the tone on DU months ago, not days ago CreekDog Jul 2013 #113

Show railsback Jul 2013 #115

No you make a good point - - but at the same time striking is all they have Taverner Jul 2013 #83

Kama, it's just a reality check on your posts CreekDog Jul 2013 #86

It's more than a "party" KamaAina Jul 2013 #90

did the BART unions consult with you about this party? CreekDog Jul 2013 #93

No one wants them to accept what's on the table KamaAina Jul 2013 #97

Only 21 recs supporting a union strike on a Democrat discussion forum? Apophis Jul 2013 #96

Right? Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #128

i rely on BART and AC Transit noiretextatique Jul 2013 #103

I am all for setting up some kind of rideshare Taverner Jul 2013 #124

Anybody who doesn't support this strike needs to reconsider their party affiliation. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #118

Has Jerry Brown come out in favor of the strikers? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #132

As do I. And for the folks complaining........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #122

Absolutely, we need a general strike Taverner Jul 2013 #123

Since I'm not inconvenienced by it, my support means little Warpy Jul 2013 #129