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JDPriestly

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82. Precisely! The people who support this just do not understand

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:06 PM

Jul 2013

it. They just don't think outside the box. This program, the concept of it is so beyond their comprehension that they just acquiesce.

Imagine a database with all that information about Americans there for the picking. All a hostile nation or company or individual would need would be the ability to assemble a group of hackers clever enough to open the thing up. And they would hit the jackpot of all time. All our information. I doubt that the government is looking for our credit card info, but anyone anywhere could open an account in someone's name with that info. Might not get many charges accepted.

This is so stupid I can't believe it. The people who run our governments don't really understand the magnitude of this project either.

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26 Sens.: NSA is relying on a "secret body of law" to collect massive amounts of data on US citizens [View all] Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 OP

Almost all Dems. Thank you! nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #1

and no Pauls! frylock Jul 2013 #33

Actually getting four Republicans to join a predominantly Democratic group is quite totodeinhere Jul 2013 #66

And Senator Frankin is included. He must have reconsidered. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #77

R+D Sens from Illinois signed this lunasun Jul 2013 #90

What "secret body of law" allows an official to lie to Congress with the "least untruthful" answer? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #2

I'm very surprised to see the senators use the term "secret body of law". Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #9

Those damn Paul-bots and libertarians! quinnox Jul 2013 #3

Yep, good to see them taking a strong public stand on this. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #10

The list is getting longer. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #78

Who else signed? lark Jul 2013 #101

Sorry, I meant that these 26 are additions to the list of prominent people looking for further rhett o rick Jul 2013 #102

OK, thanks for the clarification. lark Jul 2013 #105

What a bunch of radicals!! kentuck Jul 2013 #4

time to repeal the patriot act nt msongs Jul 2013 #5

Yes, it is! n/t Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #11

+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #93

Past time Lonr Jul 2013 #107

It's always been time to repeal it. nt valerief Jul 2013 #126

Obviously a group of ungrateful, racist, turncoat Democrats... Earth_First Jul 2013 #6

Careful, Careful - The Fiction Might Not Set You Free. cantbeserious Jul 2013 #30

Shout out to my Senator Blumenthal. Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #7

Not to brag but zeemike Jul 2013 #24

Well, I would too if I were you! Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #36

And my Senator Mark Udall truebluegreen Jul 2013 #46

Absolutely, kudos! Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #49

yes! The Last Dem. Jul 2013 #125

And both of my (female!) Washington senators are on the list as well. ChaoticTrilby Jul 2013 #54

A belated welcome to you from a fellow Washingtonian suffragette Jul 2013 #94

Thanks for the welcome! ChaoticTrilby Jul 2013 #115

Brag away! It is a pleasure to do so, isn't it? n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #100

Indeed, it is! ChaoticTrilby Jul 2013 #116

Some from the NYT on this reported yesterday: KoKo Jul 2013 #8

Well it's a good thing the military is blocking the Guardian ...now they have to block the NYT too? L0oniX Jul 2013 #63

Did you notice the absence of the name of a senior Senator, Sen Harry Reid (D-NV)? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #12

I'm sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with the location of the new center. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #51

Ouch! That's harsh! idwiyo Jul 2013 #59

Mike Lee (R-Utah) is on there siligut Jul 2013 #60

Utah Data Center Go Vols Jul 2013 #96

Isn't it ironic that the senator from Nevada who signed off on this is Republican totodeinhere Jul 2013 #67

Yes. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #72

I'm sad not to see my senator, Barbara Mikulski, on there too (D-MD) nt Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #83

Yep lark Jul 2013 #103

"secret law" is not law. Period. kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #13

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse..." Yavapai Jul 2013 #108

Fuck that Greenwald!! G_j Jul 2013 #14

Maybe someone should send them a Greenwald smear whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #15

Somebody should "educate" them on why they are so wrong. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #19

;D whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #20

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #16

Time to throw 26 senators under the bus. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #17

I think they all have girl friends that are pole-dancers. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #79

"strongly-worded letter" Matariki Jul 2013 #18

+1 forestpath Jul 2013 #22

+2 idwiyo Jul 2013 #27

+1 sibelian Jul 2013 #50

NSA probably has on file what he really thinks. Octafish Jul 2013 #95

That "strongly-worded letter" is the political equivalent to a pacifier for loud wailing babies. BlueCaliDem Jul 2013 #127

Congress packs away certain things that would get the serfs pissed off Rex Jul 2013 #21

Kick for those who want to start digging up dirt and looking through boxes on these "unpatriotic" quinnox Jul 2013 #23

I heard some of them supported the Iraq war. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #25

Anyone with pole dancing girlfriends? idwiyo Jul 2013 #29

Hehehehehehehe...... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #38

Well worth reading the entire article. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #26

Imagine the blackmail opportunities for a hostile foreign gov't. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #76

Precisely! The people who support this just do not understand JDPriestly Jul 2013 #82

74 Senators appear to be missing... /nt think Jul 2013 #28

I think this might be called CYA. They're blaming this on the Admin's "interpretation" of the..... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #31

My Senator Mark Udall has been aware truebluegreen Jul 2013 #47

Same for my Senators Weyden and Merkley they are representing me and the Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #48

Why Do Those . . FairWinds Jul 2013 #32

How about instead of writing letter they start writing new laws to stop this crap? davidn3600 Jul 2013 #34

Strongly worded letters are worthless. Apophis Jul 2013 #35

New laws. Brewinblue Jul 2013 #39

Touch�. Apophis Jul 2013 #40

Hurry!!! Rearrange those deck chairs!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #37

Who knew there were so many racist libertarian Dem Senators? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #41

WTF! Don't they know we all knew that for quite some time. n/t Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #42

FISA is a "secret body of law," including key secret rulings that "legalized" universal surveillance leveymg Jul 2013 #43

That is a really chilling article to read. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #88

Ur Welcome. leveymg Jul 2013 #98

K&R grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #44

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #45

K+R sibelian Jul 2013 #52

"to justify the sweeping collection of telephone and internet data revealed by the Guardian" ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #53

Obviously they don't know that "FISA" made everything legal in "1976." DirkGently Jul 2013 #55

Fine meaning ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #56

No PA Senator. Hmm. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #57

kick Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #58

Secret court says secret interpretation of secret law is legal. reusrename Jul 2013 #61

Well, I hope they like the same kind of porn I like. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #62

Oh pffft ...the Guardian is a bunch of bunny stompers. No wonder our military blocks them. L0oniX Jul 2013 #64

You'd think Republicans would be all over this, intheflow Jul 2013 #65

This is a Republican program Hydra Jul 2013 #68

Even though that's very true, a few more Repubs have made public statements against NSA. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #73

K & R AzDar Jul 2013 #69

Kicked and Recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #70

so when will the posts start attacking their personal life and calling them glory seeking punks? yurbud Jul 2013 #71

All in good time, NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #112

and they won't notice that nobody gives a shit except those already inclined to dislike the targets yurbud Jul 2013 #114

And the numbers don't add up to an amendment, just like in December. DevonRex Jul 2013 #74

There is no such thing as a secret body of law in a Democracy FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #75

And secret courts to go with it. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #81

Well, there goes the argument that they 'are NOT spying on Americans' - where r the usual suspects? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #80

They AREN"T spying. They gotta get a secret FISA warrant. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #84

Isn't it just pathetic the lengths they will go to to justify this wrong-doing! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #85

You forgot that Snowden's a dropout. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #87

Yes, I noticed too this thread is refreshingly free of the Usual Baloney and back rollers. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #86

That is high on the list of three words that should not be used together. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #89

we probably shouldn't have secret laws, they make the country seem creepy. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #91

+1 Go Vols Jul 2013 #113

Both of my Senators for WA signed suffragette Jul 2013 #92

Secret laws? Wrong for democracy. Wrong for me. aquart Jul 2013 #97

kick Go Vols Jul 2013 #99

Hey Max! We Need More Buses! Agony Jul 2013 #104

Excellent, this gives me hope that some of our elected officials are finally feeling free to sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #106

K&R marions ghost Jul 2013 #109

Where the f*ck are the Senators from Virginia? westerebus Jul 2013 #110

And Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #111

It's down right embarrassing. westerebus Jul 2013 #119

Getting to the crux of things - good job. toby jo Jul 2013 #117

Why is this number not 100? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #118

kinr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #120

POLICE STATE blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #121

Question: If all laws are passed by Congress, how can a body of law be secret? nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #122

A link through the Guardian to the actual letter jonthebru Jul 2013 #123

Sure, make it harder for the Gov't to use the Patriot Act to arrest granny for smoking weed. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #124

I'm still waiting for an answer, so I will gladly bump this. Wish I could rec again. These Senators silvershadow Jul 2013 #128