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DevonRex

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16. You have a problem with France and Portugal

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:10 PM

Jul 2013

deciding what to do with their own airspace? Talk to them. Just think, France and Portugal might actually have a stake in Snowden not spilling their secrets, too. Poor Snowden should have taken into account that he might be making a lot of enemies when he pulled his stunt. Especially when he has nothing of value to offer anyone.

Iran and North Korea might welcome him.

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Snowden has something major or they don't know what he has. [View all] morningfog Jul 2013 OP

Or they know what he has and would rather not have it broadcast over the world. baldguy Jul 2013 #1

Russ Tice claims the NSA had wiretaps even on all 9 Supreme Court justices think Jul 2013 #29

Good God, I didn't realize Tice was that far off the range. randome Jul 2013 #31

What do you mean "off the range"? Please explain. think Jul 2013 #33

I thought I DID spell it out. randome Jul 2013 #35

You insulted a whistle blower who exposed Bush's illegal wire tapping and claimed he's nuts think Jul 2013 #37

like the truth about the "curly hair" Alameda Jul 2013 #59

Are you equating the NSA with the Republican Party? Th1onein Jul 2013 #89

The NSA is really part of the Illuminati, baldguy Jul 2013 #34

Thank you for your very informed opinion. Could you provide any links to think Jul 2013 #36

Robert Anton Wilson did an extensive expos� several years ago. baldguy Jul 2013 #44

Well what did I go to school for. Thank you for the additional info! think Jul 2013 #45

Way to miss the point, almost as though you had intended to before you even got started. Electric Monk Jul 2013 #48

Ya got me! Yes, I'm laughing at the Paulbots and Snowden's chauvanists. baldguy Jul 2013 #51

But who wiretaps them? kentuck Jul 2013 #32

excellent question. /nt think Jul 2013 #41

Which latest episode? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #2

Haha. That's why no country wants him. DevonRex Jul 2013 #3

No, Obama had nothing to do with forcing a morningfog Jul 2013 #5

You have a problem with France and Portugal DevonRex Jul 2013 #16

France and Portugal haven't decided what to do with anything until they hear from the US sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #22

Dear, look up Frenchelon. nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #24

I've been very observant of the European situation over the past decade. Don't really need to look sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #25

LOL, it was in place long before W even took office. A little reading for you: DevonRex Jul 2013 #49

France quite recently plussed up their intelligence budget, too. nt MADem Jul 2013 #52

Really? I know that France and Germany share quite a lot. DevonRex Jul 2013 #71

are you calling france an american lapdog? arely staircase Jul 2013 #47

I like that reflexive pairing of "Iran and North Korea" Scootaloo Jul 2013 #55

Iran has a beef with us because of our cyber attack on their nuclear program. DevonRex Jul 2013 #69

Whaddya mean "bullying" Mrs. Smith? Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #81

"President Obama seems content to let him stew in dirty clothes." Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #9

According to Glenn Greenwald...the leaks are all done and the newspapers are now deciding Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #4

What does that mean? Nine Jul 2013 #10

Glenn clarifies: Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #12

Glenn needs to get better at reporting. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #20

I understood his original tweet completely; some others did not. So he clarified. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #27

SNowden's leak to Greenwald is done. It was completed in one dump weeks ago. morningfog Jul 2013 #54

Yet Snowden clearly said he has more which he will decide which journalists in which countries to KittyWampus Jul 2013 #91

Wow. That's some ish. Incredible back-peddle. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #17

I thought Greewald was telling fox news something big was coming Andy823 Jul 2013 #21

Greenwald asserts that the Guardian already has everything that Snowden downloaded. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #26

That is not how I read Greenwald's statement. He is saying that everything Snowden was to give him morningfog Jul 2013 #75

Greenwald says he still does have big stuff to release, morningfog Jul 2013 #56

First the PowerPoint slides! randome Jul 2013 #58

Try to dismiss it. This is serious shit. morningfog Jul 2013 #60

I will go wherever the evidence leads me. randome Jul 2013 #62

But, you don't actually read the evidence. morningfog Jul 2013 #64

You would think Snowden would have provided stronger evidence... randome Jul 2013 #67

Face it. Obama is pissing nations off with the morningfog Jul 2013 #73

Riiiiiight! That's why Snowden is living in a Russian airport! Th1onein Jul 2013 #90

But, but, but, G went on fox and friends whose ODS is Cha Jul 2013 #57

Yet another speculation, MineralMan Jul 2013 #6

This is my opinion. Thank you for responding to my thread. morningfog Jul 2013 #8

Who needs facts? HipChick Jul 2013 #19

Who's sweating? No other nation wants him so far. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #7

Yet none are handing him over either. Even after direct requests. morningfog Jul 2013 #76

"None" = Hong Kong and Russia. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #88

Even if he doesn't have what they are afraid of, the fact they are this fearful of him and Cleita Jul 2013 #11

It's most likely concern about collateral damage of ironically revealing identities CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #13

I thought that site was a no no for linking to? Did that change? nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #39

Only out of convenience. morningfog Jul 2013 #77

I agree with you, morningfog. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #14

They know every key stroke he made while at NSA, know all the files he accessed. I think it is more Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #15

Then why was it classified SECRET and TOP SECRET ? kentuck Jul 2013 #43

I knew someone would ask something like this. it would only be good to an analysist or to the pbone Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #72

Even the Wikileaks attorneys don't want him! randome Jul 2013 #18

The Guardian already has all the info that he downloaded. Snowden can choose to leak Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #23

Spiegel already has what's relevant to Germany too n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #38

the propagandists seem desperate to innoculate us from whatever truth is still out there carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #28

What latest episode? n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #30

Forcing a plane with a head of state to change course morningfog Jul 2013 #74

Or HE has nothing and is afraid NightWatcher Jul 2013 #40

The Fact that NSA has been operating on such a large scale for so long is kind of a big deal Herlong Jul 2013 #42

oh, someone's getting desperate alright nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #46

Snowden should go to Spain and Obama can ask Chimpy to go arrest him. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #50

Shrewd. randome Jul 2013 #53

John Ashcroft is unavailable Herlong Jul 2013 #68

And He is the Smart One bahrbearian Jul 2013 #70

They don't have the slightest clue what he has. Catherina Jul 2013 #61

Reports on RT that Ecuador requested a special meeting of UNASUR after the incident with Morales. morningfog Jul 2013 #63

It's true. I got it straight from Ecuadoran paper Catherina Jul 2013 #65

yeah, if they logged all his keystrokes... grasswire Jul 2013 #66

Well, obviously, security at NSA is totally SNAFU. morningfog Jul 2013 #78

I said to my husband Snowden got the crown jewels nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #79

If the US isn't careful they could cause this all to escalate and spiral into morningfog Jul 2013 #82

What, you are not going to blame a 30 something nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #83

Or he pissed off the wrong guy BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #80

The fact that they don't know what he has Hydra Jul 2013 #84

Everything you wrote is bad enough. morningfog Jul 2013 #85

There's no way to know really Hydra Jul 2013 #86

Good question. I would hope so. morningfog Jul 2013 #87

It's too late to put the horse back in the barn, this is all about discouraging future whistleblower usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #92