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RainDog

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57. Obama won the largest share of the white vote since 1976
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jul 2013

for Democrat, in a two-person presidential race.

Yet you left this out - even tho it's the first sentence in the first link you have here.

But that doesn't fit the race baiting in your post - which you have been doing here since you joined DU.

Where are those African-American voters living - the ones who voted for Obama?

The overwhelming number of African-Americans live in the south. Since we have an electoral college voting system, those votes count toward a presidential election when the states in which they are made have their electoral college votes assigned to one person or another.

So, who won those southern states?

Again, the reality is that voting populations of those states whose electoral votes went to Obama were made up of a coalition of blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and whites. All were part of this win and the votes from whites were essential for the Democratic candidate in the last two elections... and in every election. It's not a "white vs. black" issue. It's a conservative vs. liberal issue.

A stunning 54 percent of young white voters supported Obama, compared with 44 percent who went for McCain, the senator from Arizona. In the past three decades, no Democratic presidential nominee has won more than 45 percent of young whites.


again, from your first link. So, Obama won more white votes among those who will be voting most often in future presidential elections - and more votes from these white voters than for any white candidate in 30 years.

...which is, again, something you leave out because you are race baiting.

Hispanics are 8% of the voting population.
Asian-Americans are 3.4% of the voting population
African-Americans are 12% of the voting population (I'm using census numbers that show an increase in the last election.)

So, less than 24% of all votes were cast by the group you talk about in your OP. The point is that elections are about coalitions of people, no matter their ethnicity. The reality is that white people voted for Obama more than any other Democratic president in the recent past. So, if this is about Obama - the reality is that white people voted him into office as much as any other racial or ethnic category, and more whites voted for him than voted for white candidates in the past.

Although blacks voted at higher rates than non-Hispanic whites nationally in 2012, this result was not uniform across the country. In the East North Central, East South Central, Middle Atlantic, and South Atlantic divisions, blacks voted at higher rates than non-Hispanic whites. In the Mountain and Pacific divisions, non-Hispanic whites voted at higher rates than blacks. In the New England, West North Central and West South Central divisions, voting rates for the two groups were not significantly different from each other.


So, in areas of the nation with large white populations, those states include many who voted for and carried the electoral college votes for Obama and the Democratic Party. It was, again, a coalition of voters, across many different categories.

However, the population in this nation that is white and Republican-voting is also the population that considers itself strongly religious.

The categories that lost votes from Obama to Romney were among white Protestant and Catholic voters. But, overwhelmingly, white protestants vote for Republicans. No matter who the Democratic nominee may be. This has been the case since the 1980s.

You could've broken this down in other ways... more people who hold no strong religious belief voted for Obama than voted for Romney or McCain.

The religiously unaffiliated voted 75% for Obama in 2008 and 70% in 2012. This vote for Obama is larger than votes for Gore or Kerry.

This demographic is 20% of the adult population, and growing. This vote is greater than or equal to than any two of the three categories you selected, and nearly equal to all them, combined.

So, those with religious affiliations, other than African-Americans, match your totals for "voting while white." Maybe the problem is certain religion beliefs, as far as voting for any Democrat, since this voting pattern holds no matter who the Democrats run because the religious right is ideologically opposed to those issues that constitute the core of the Democratic platform coalition among black, Latino, Asian-American, white, male, female, straight, gay, religious or non-religious, environmentalist, believer in the public good...

Surprise! (or not, actually) Those same white protestant voters oppose women's rights, gblt rights, equal rights and opportunities for minorities, environmental regulations, business regulation, social safety net upholding...

These same percentages for religious voters will hold true when or if Hillary Clinton runs for president. They will have held true since before she ran, as well, just as they do now, with President Obama.

The good news in all this is that the white religious voter is older and dying off. Younger people continue to disassociate themselves with religion. It seems an effective "southern strategy" for Democrats would be to form coalitions of non-religious voters, of all races, to encourage their other non-religious friends to vote and to become involved in the political process. In the south, such a coalition could help with voter registration and making sure people in their states have valid voter i.d.s.

But this would be inclusive, rather than divisive, so obviously it's not pertinent to your OP.

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If you were truly serious in the title to your post Crepuscular Jul 2013 #1
Obama didn't win 43% of white voters in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #2
But what you are missing Crepuscular Jul 2013 #3
Romney got 59% of white votes cast in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #6
Yes, but..... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #10
Absent the voters I'm thanking, Romney would be president. ucrdem Jul 2013 #11
Clearly you don't understand statistics Crepuscular Jul 2013 #12
Oh please. This is really getting silly. ucrdem Jul 2013 #13
You said that... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #19
I'm sorry, but that's magical thinking. ucrdem Jul 2013 #24
Ok Crepuscular Jul 2013 #25
that was a somewhat alarming exchange cali Jul 2013 #28
Confirmation bias isn't as alarming as you think. ucrdem Jul 2013 #31
say what? cali Jul 2013 #37
p.s. I do thank and applaud those who support him. ucrdem Jul 2013 #4
Saved the world, eh? kiva Jul 2013 #5
Have you been paying attention to Obama's travels this summer? ucrdem Jul 2013 #7
Ah, American Exceptionalism. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #8
lol. cali Jul 2013 #9
A serious response. cali Jul 2013 #14
Strongly disagree. I think that barring catastrophe his presidency outshine FDR's. ucrdem Jul 2013 #15
His approval rating is in the 40s, and no one trusts the government anymore davidn3600 Jul 2013 #18
Oh I imagine his support is collapsing like it collapsed in November. ucrdem Jul 2013 #22
I hate to break this to you, but historians disagree cali Jul 2013 #21
Note the future tense "will" in the OP. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #23
Ah, so you're basing that claim on events that haven't yet occurred. Marr Jul 2013 #54
A lot have, like ACA and the recovery, ucrdem Jul 2013 #63
Your mind galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #50
This game did not go well when played after Prop 8 Prism Jul 2013 #16
i think it was mostly in the South where Romney won such large percentages of white voters JI7 Jul 2013 #17
he definitely won the white vote in my state cali Jul 2013 #30
It's very fair to give nonwhite voters the credit for sparing us from Mitt Romney. dawg Jul 2013 #20
Except Crepuscular Jul 2013 #27
Yes, but "whites" as a group mostly voted for Romney, so nonwhites were the deciding factor. dawg Jul 2013 #29
Minorities were "a" deciding factor Crepuscular Jul 2013 #36
I've seen a lot of pretzel logic, and that's pretzel logic. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #39
I don't think Crepuscular Jul 2013 #46
If minorities had voted for Obama in the same percentage as whites, we would have a President Romney pampango Jul 2013 #26
Let me guess, you heard it in NPR. ucrdem Jul 2013 #33
No. Was it on NPR? It's simple math. Romney got 59% of the white vote. If he had received 59% of pampango Jul 2013 #56
I feel especially thankful to the people who waited in lone upaloopa Jul 2013 #32
If it were up to white voters Obama would have lost both elections. ucrdem Jul 2013 #34
Still shaking my head..... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #43
Get off the white loathing guilt trip will you? upaloopa Jul 2013 #48
I drove a long way to canvas for him. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #52
No one is trying to diminish your or anyone's individual contribution. ucrdem Jul 2013 #53
You left out lgbt and jews dsc Jul 2013 #35
Props to both groups but that's a different OP isn't it? ucrdem Jul 2013 #38
well we all equally contributed to that victory dsc Jul 2013 #41
All who voted for Democratic or at least progressive candidates should be thanked, absolutely. ucrdem Jul 2013 #42
Maybe some of those folks have not been reading the news. Or this --> bike man Jul 2013 #40
Der Spiegel via FT and I don't see any numbers. ucrdem Jul 2013 #45
Everyone does indeed have an opinion, and some don't agree with yours. Imagine that! bike man Jul 2013 #49
Of course, and I'm sharing mine in hopes you'll consider that we take a lot for granted. ucrdem Jul 2013 #51
Thanks to the SCOTUS gutting the VRA, 2014 and 2016 could be ugly. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #44
Yes that worries me a lot. In fact ucrdem Jul 2013 #47
Republican over-reach in states that party controls will make 2014 competitive bluestate10 Jul 2013 #60
I'm sure this thread will go down well. On DU. In General Discussion. Number23 Jul 2013 #55
Obama won the largest share of the white vote since 1976 RainDog Jul 2013 #57
Yes, in 2008. But white support forObama dropped from 43%in 2008 to 39% in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #58
The majority of his total vote came from white voters. RainDog Jul 2013 #64
Yes, I'm simply looking at one question on the exit polls, because it's telling. ucrdem Jul 2013 #65
So, since the evidence is that white religious voters went for Romney RainDog Jul 2013 #68
Religion is not the identifier I'm focusing on, no. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #69
because you don't want to present accurate information RainDog Jul 2013 #70
For the fourth time, the OP has nothing to do with religion. ucrdem Jul 2013 #71
actually, my posts are telling the truth RainDog Jul 2013 #72
Discussing race in electoral politics is not race baiting. ucrdem Jul 2013 #73
No. Discussing race dishonestly is race baiting RainDog Jul 2013 #74
Your claims simply aren't true. In 2008 Obama got what Bill got in 1996 and in 2012 he got 4% less. ucrdem Jul 2013 #75
LOL RainDog Jul 2013 #76
NOTHING in my OP is from Politico. The link is an error. But your entire rant is ucrdem Jul 2013 #77
The Washington Post is a right wing source? RainDog Jul 2013 #80
Doesn't change a thing and there's no lie except in your own mind. ucrdem Jul 2013 #82
no. you're wrong RainDog Jul 2013 #83
Dude. This is not about religion. ucrdem Jul 2013 #85
Dude RainDog Jul 2013 #88
While I'm very glad Obama won over Romney, polly7 Jul 2013 #59
The short answer is Iran and climate change. ucrdem Jul 2013 #61
uh huh. polly7 Jul 2013 #66
I'm pretty sure the world could endure the Romneypocalypse RZM Jul 2013 #62
Im not so sanguine. ucrdem Jul 2013 #67
Absolutely!!! Great thread! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #78
Thank you ucrdem Jul 2013 #86
As an old white man mick063 Jul 2013 #79
I basically feel the same way. ucrdem Jul 2013 #87
I'm an Asian-American who voted for Obama in 2012 in my first presidential election where I voted, alp227 Jul 2013 #81
I think you're letting yourself get distracted. ucrdem Jul 2013 #84
I'm thanking them right f****** now! Started the night of the election.. Cha Jul 2013 #89
Thank you for standing out in the cold to cast your vote. bravenak Jul 2013 #90
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