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ucrdem

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58. Yes, in 2008. But white support forObama dropped from 43%in 2008 to 39% in 2012.

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:29 PM

Jul 2013

That's from WaPo, as reflected on the chart below, but I've seen the same poll numbers elsewhere:

Incidentally, the first link in the OP goes to a Nov. 5, 2008 Politico article discussing the 2008 election, but the quotation is from a Nov. 7, 2012 CS Monitor article describing the 2012 exit poll data. I must have posted the wrong link, sorry to confuse the issue further, but here's the correct link:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/1107/Election-results-2012-Who-won-it-for-Obama-video

Anyway the point I'm trying to make is that white voters proved themselves are easily distracted and less loyal to Obama in his reelection than they were to Clinion in his. And even in 2008, Obama got only as much of the white vote as Clinton did in 1996, 43%. And I know Florida and Virgina voted blue in 2012, good on 'em, but I don't think it was white voters in those states who pushed Obama over, and the rest of the south all went red:

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History will thank the African-American, Latino, and Asian-American voters who saved the world [View all] ucrdem Jul 2013 OP

If you were truly serious in the title to your post Crepuscular Jul 2013 #1

Obama didn't win 43% of white voters in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #2

But what you are missing Crepuscular Jul 2013 #3

Romney got 59% of white votes cast in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #6

Yes, but..... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #10

Absent the voters I'm thanking, Romney would be president. ucrdem Jul 2013 #11

Clearly you don't understand statistics Crepuscular Jul 2013 #12

Oh please. This is really getting silly. ucrdem Jul 2013 #13

You said that... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #19

I'm sorry, but that's magical thinking. ucrdem Jul 2013 #24

Ok Crepuscular Jul 2013 #25

that was a somewhat alarming exchange cali Jul 2013 #28

Confirmation bias isn't as alarming as you think. ucrdem Jul 2013 #31

say what? cali Jul 2013 #37

p.s. I do thank and applaud those who support him. ucrdem Jul 2013 #4

Saved the world, eh? kiva Jul 2013 #5

Have you been paying attention to Obama's travels this summer? ucrdem Jul 2013 #7

Ah, American Exceptionalism. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #8

lol. cali Jul 2013 #9

A serious response. cali Jul 2013 #14

Strongly disagree. I think that barring catastrophe his presidency outshine FDR's. ucrdem Jul 2013 #15

His approval rating is in the 40s, and no one trusts the government anymore davidn3600 Jul 2013 #18

Oh I imagine his support is collapsing like it collapsed in November. ucrdem Jul 2013 #22

I hate to break this to you, but historians disagree cali Jul 2013 #21

Note the future tense "will" in the OP. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #23

Ah, so you're basing that claim on events that haven't yet occurred. Marr Jul 2013 #54

A lot have, like ACA and the recovery, ucrdem Jul 2013 #63

Your mind galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #50

This game did not go well when played after Prop 8 Prism Jul 2013 #16

i think it was mostly in the South where Romney won such large percentages of white voters JI7 Jul 2013 #17

he definitely won the white vote in my state cali Jul 2013 #30

It's very fair to give nonwhite voters the credit for sparing us from Mitt Romney. dawg Jul 2013 #20

Except Crepuscular Jul 2013 #27

Yes, but "whites" as a group mostly voted for Romney, so nonwhites were the deciding factor. dawg Jul 2013 #29

Minorities were "a" deciding factor Crepuscular Jul 2013 #36

I've seen a lot of pretzel logic, and that's pretzel logic. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #39

I don't think Crepuscular Jul 2013 #46

If minorities had voted for Obama in the same percentage as whites, we would have a President Romney pampango Jul 2013 #26

Let me guess, you heard it in NPR. ucrdem Jul 2013 #33

No. Was it on NPR? It's simple math. Romney got 59% of the white vote. If he had received 59% of pampango Jul 2013 #56

I feel especially thankful to the people who waited in lone upaloopa Jul 2013 #32

If it were up to white voters Obama would have lost both elections. ucrdem Jul 2013 #34

Still shaking my head..... Crepuscular Jul 2013 #43

Get off the white loathing guilt trip will you? upaloopa Jul 2013 #48

I drove a long way to canvas for him. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #52

No one is trying to diminish your or anyone's individual contribution. ucrdem Jul 2013 #53

You left out lgbt and jews dsc Jul 2013 #35

Props to both groups but that's a different OP isn't it? ucrdem Jul 2013 #38

well we all equally contributed to that victory dsc Jul 2013 #41

All who voted for Democratic or at least progressive candidates should be thanked, absolutely. ucrdem Jul 2013 #42

Maybe some of those folks have not been reading the news. Or this --> bike man Jul 2013 #40

Der Spiegel via FT and I don't see any numbers. ucrdem Jul 2013 #45

Everyone does indeed have an opinion, and some don't agree with yours. Imagine that! bike man Jul 2013 #49

Of course, and I'm sharing mine in hopes you'll consider that we take a lot for granted. ucrdem Jul 2013 #51

Thanks to the SCOTUS gutting the VRA, 2014 and 2016 could be ugly. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #44

Yes that worries me a lot. In fact ucrdem Jul 2013 #47

Republican over-reach in states that party controls will make 2014 competitive bluestate10 Jul 2013 #60

I'm sure this thread will go down well. On DU. In General Discussion. Number23 Jul 2013 #55

Obama won the largest share of the white vote since 1976 RainDog Jul 2013 #57

Yes, in 2008. But white support forObama dropped from 43%in 2008 to 39% in 2012. ucrdem Jul 2013 #58

The majority of his total vote came from white voters. RainDog Jul 2013 #64

Yes, I'm simply looking at one question on the exit polls, because it's telling. ucrdem Jul 2013 #65

So, since the evidence is that white religious voters went for Romney RainDog Jul 2013 #68

Religion is not the identifier I'm focusing on, no. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #69

because you don't want to present accurate information RainDog Jul 2013 #70

For the fourth time, the OP has nothing to do with religion. ucrdem Jul 2013 #71

actually, my posts are telling the truth RainDog Jul 2013 #72

Discussing race in electoral politics is not race baiting. ucrdem Jul 2013 #73

No. Discussing race dishonestly is race baiting RainDog Jul 2013 #74

Your claims simply aren't true. In 2008 Obama got what Bill got in 1996 and in 2012 he got 4% less. ucrdem Jul 2013 #75

LOL RainDog Jul 2013 #76

NOTHING in my OP is from Politico. The link is an error. But your entire rant is ucrdem Jul 2013 #77

The Washington Post is a right wing source? RainDog Jul 2013 #80

Doesn't change a thing and there's no lie except in your own mind. ucrdem Jul 2013 #82

no. you're wrong RainDog Jul 2013 #83

Dude. This is not about religion. ucrdem Jul 2013 #85

Dude RainDog Jul 2013 #88

While I'm very glad Obama won over Romney, polly7 Jul 2013 #59

The short answer is Iran and climate change. ucrdem Jul 2013 #61

uh huh. polly7 Jul 2013 #66

I'm pretty sure the world could endure the Romneypocalypse RZM Jul 2013 #62

Im not so sanguine. ucrdem Jul 2013 #67

Absolutely!!! Great thread! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #78

Thank you ucrdem Jul 2013 #86

As an old white man mick063 Jul 2013 #79

I basically feel the same way. ucrdem Jul 2013 #87

I'm an Asian-American who voted for Obama in 2012 in my first presidential election where I voted, alp227 Jul 2013 #81

I think you're letting yourself get distracted. ucrdem Jul 2013 #84

I'm thanking them right f****** now! Started the night of the election.. Cha Jul 2013 #89

Thank you for standing out in the cold to cast your vote. bravenak Jul 2013 #90