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Showing Original Post only (View all)Wow. I don't think the U.S. has been this hated since March 2003. [View all]
Observing what the US are doing and saying regarding Snowden has fundamentally changed my attitude to the country. Add in the whole gun culture thing and much else besides I really don't think I care to visit the place again. Central to both these issues has been Obama and once again my former belief for him as a man and as a president has been terminally screwed. - symphony1010 03 July 2013 4:13am
An op-ed by a German Green politican:
"Edward Snowden deserves shelter in Germany
Edward Snowden has done us all a great service. In the past two weeks Europeans have been made aware of massive data collection from their private and business communications by American and British security services. The extent of this surveillance has been staggering. We have also learned that the US is apparently spying on EU representations in Brussels, Washington and New York, and the embassies of European member states. These practices have nothing to do with the war on terror.
We can only speculate about the real motivation. What type of information is being extracted, and what is being done with it? The European Commission is supposed to start negotiations with the US on a transatlantic free trade agreement. Should our delegations choose to meet at secret locations in future and prepare meetings using encrypted code, because otherwise the US National Security Agency will know their every move in advance? On top of that, German and other European businesses' secrets cannot be secure any more. For years the US has been accusing China of stealing intellectual property. Do we need to redirect our attention over industrial espionage?
If even a few of these revelations are true, our worst Orwellian nightmares have become reality. Already trust between the EU and the US, and between the EU and its member state Britain has been violated. Both governments need to react to these accusations, clarify the activities of their secret services and, if true, stop these programmes immediately. Surveillance without suspicion to this extent constitutes a violation of the right to privacy laid down, for instance, in the international covenant on civil and political rights."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/02/edward-snowden-shelter-in-germany
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LOL! You post an editorial and project it onto all of world. It says more about the posters doing
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#1
Probably the same kinds of idiots who say the US govt killed Michael Hastings
Cali_Democrat
Jul 2013
#22
The same sort of 'idiots' who opposed the invasion of Iraq and Bush's bullying of the world....
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2013
#29
Screw the governments, you're saying that's why citizens around the world hate us?
wtmusic
Jul 2013
#9
Some are angry, the ones who pay attention to news media. And they wouldn't be angry
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#20
So your contention is that merely having an 'intelligence service' means any nation
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#60
No, my contention is that intelligence gathering is an element of statecraft in every nation...
brooklynite
Jul 2013
#67
You don't think China's spies do the same thing? Russia's? Germany's? Get real. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#36
And - if you call it out, you are labeled as a hater by whichever group holds power
The Straight Story
Jul 2013
#19
That is one damning bill of particulars. I really wish you would build it into an OP
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#103
You don't feel any personal embarrassment at how we are treating the rest of the world?
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#80
Example of your polite niceties to someone who disagreed with you: "You are a waste of space."
FSogol
Jul 2013
#73
It was a joke just like everyone who truly believe that Snowden is a hero
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#68
It was sacrificed already sharing divulging secret information to other nations is still a crime
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#93
You weren't here during the Smirk years, this is nothing, DU was far more unified in hating the US
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#121
They should be hating the banksters that control our government. We are in the unfortunate
Zorra
Jul 2013
#64
The book "The Ugly American" was written in the 1950s if my memory serves me correctly
1-Old-Man
Jul 2013
#75
Does "German Green" have any relation to the American Green Party?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2013
#112
I ignore people of all kinds including Americans, which was pretty clearly made apparent in my post
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2013
#119
So, falling back on the "he criticises Obama, so he must be racist" BS, huh?
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#122