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3. And we have Snowden to thank for this.

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:54 AM

Jul 2013

He moved a lot closer to treason when he stopped talking about US internal surveillance and started leaking about US spying on other countries.

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Wow. I don't think the U.S. has been this hated since March 2003. [View all] wtmusic Jul 2013 OP

LOL! You post an editorial and project it onto all of world. It says more about the posters doing KittyWampus Jul 2013 #1

Did you read the comments? wtmusic Jul 2013 #2

Yes I did. Did you? LOL! KittyWampus Jul 2013 #5

+1 graham4anything Jul 2013 #33

Probably the same kinds of idiots who say the US govt killed Michael Hastings Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #22

The same sort of 'idiots' who opposed the invasion of Iraq and Bush's bullying of the world.... Violet_Crumble Jul 2013 #29

+1 graham4anything Jul 2013 #31

When was Bush ousted? Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #77

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #42

And we have Snowden to thank for this. pnwmom Jul 2013 #3

Shoot the messenger? wtmusic Jul 2013 #4

No, charge him with theft of classified documents and put him on trial. nt pnwmom Jul 2013 #6

So...they hate us because Snowden stole the documents. wtmusic Jul 2013 #7

He stole them and shared them with China and other countries around the world. pnwmom Jul 2013 #8

Screw the governments, you're saying that's why citizens around the world hate us? wtmusic Jul 2013 #9

Some are angry, the ones who pay attention to news media. And they wouldn't be angry pnwmom Jul 2013 #20

They don't hate US. They hate the spooks. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #30

Right, because NONE of those countries have an intelligence service... brooklynite Jul 2013 #52

So your contention is that merely having an 'intelligence service' means any nation Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #60

No, my contention is that intelligence gathering is an element of statecraft in every nation... brooklynite Jul 2013 #67

They hate their own too... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #114

And EXCUSE ME! Exactly why shouldn't the 6.5 +billion... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #32

You don't think China's spies do the same thing? Russia's? Germany's? Get real. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #36

No, they don't reorg Jul 2013 #41

1. I don't believe they're doing it on anything like this scale. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #45

Especially #2. The world is not as stupid laundry_queen Jul 2013 #72

I'm glad you were not around during CoIntelPro and Watergate. nt tsuki Jul 2013 #96

I see. Ignorance would be bliss. LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #120

I love your avatar - may I use it? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #76

Sure! wtmusic Jul 2013 #106

"they" don't hate us. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12

they have gone WAY past pretzel-shaping, wtmusic Skittles Jul 2013 #23

For proving the US steals citizens' documents? Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #11

Maybe, just maybe . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #18

You'd see the roaches better if you took the blinders off.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #25

Someone else already turned the light on exposing all the roaches Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #28

Yep. This is definitely very Bushian. nt LittleBlue Jul 2013 #10

Remember the international goodwill Obama had a few years ago? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #13

Gone. wtmusic Jul 2013 #15

The change that we're getting Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #44

WHY we are hated (IMHO) by some The Straight Story Jul 2013 #14

Yes! To all. wtmusic Jul 2013 #16

And - if you call it out, you are labeled as a hater by whichever group holds power The Straight Story Jul 2013 #19

+10000 octoberlib Jul 2013 #17

That's it, in a nutshell n/t BuelahWitch Jul 2013 #38

^^This^^ n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #40

Thank you. MuseRider Jul 2013 #59

That is one damning bill of particulars. I really wish you would build it into an OP HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #103

If you can't do the time HipChick Jul 2013 #21

1% Criminals Don't "do the time" villager Jul 2013 #27

Irish politicians are also asking that he be given shelter in Ireland. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #24

Don't kid yourself..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #26

The reaction on twitter is not good at all for us Catherina Jul 2013 #34

We were not so "hated" in WWII treestar Jul 2013 #35

Except that was 30years ago and we've been riding on that. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #43

They could treestar Jul 2013 #51

Nice to be able to agree with you treestar. wtmusic Jul 2013 #107

1940's US-- a time of unprecedented propaganda eilen Jul 2013 #115

So, is this the happy dance thread? Skidmore Jul 2013 #37

You don't feel any personal embarrassment at how we are treating the rest of the world? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #80

Did I say that? Skidmore Jul 2013 #82

I'm asking. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #83

And I'm telling you my opinion. Skidmore Jul 2013 #85

You've already told me where I want this to go wtmusic Jul 2013 #86

I'm responding to the tone and tenor of the posts I have been reading Skidmore Jul 2013 #90

... sibelian Jul 2013 #116

The Empire has no clothes. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #39

Oh hey, a right-wing rag in the UK says a thing in an editorial Arkana Jul 2013 #46

BTW, How's that Official Secrets Act working out for them? brooklynite Jul 2013 #58

The Guardian is left wing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #63

yep temmer Jul 2013 #87

Didn't Obama have an 88% approval rating in Germany just this month? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author wtmusic Jul 2013 #111

Unrec for RW nonsense and an Unrec for your avatar image. FSogol Jul 2013 #48

You're claiming the German Greens are right wing? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #66

Rubbish is conflating a German op-ed into worldwide hatred of the US. FSogol Jul 2013 #69

OK, so you *are* claiming it's right wing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #70

Example of your polite niceties to someone who disagreed with you: "You are a waste of space." FSogol Jul 2013 #73

How typical that you take "the sky is falling" from OP. wtmusic Jul 2013 #94

Oh Noes! My worst Orwellian Nightmare! FSogol Jul 2013 #98

So some asshat writes up HappyMe Jul 2013 #49

The US is hated by many, loved by many,...... NCTraveler Jul 2013 #50

And so many here still think Snowden is a hero? liberal N proud Jul 2013 #53

yeah better that we kept this illegal shit secret right? bobduca Jul 2013 #55

Secret vs divulging secrets to the world? liberal N proud Jul 2013 #62

What I learned from James Bond : How not to make a martini. bobduca Jul 2013 #65

It was a joke just like everyone who truly believe that Snowden is a hero liberal N proud Jul 2013 #68

a joke bobduca Jul 2013 #71

Now we are getting to your real problem liberal N proud Jul 2013 #74

I love the president and his fan club!111 bobduca Jul 2013 #79

That would make it nice and simple wouldn't it? sibelian Jul 2013 #117

My liberty is not yours to sacrifice wtmusic Jul 2013 #91

It was sacrificed already sharing divulging secret information to other nations is still a crime liberal N proud Jul 2013 #93

Really? wtmusic Jul 2013 #97

You were the one crying about civil liberties in you previous post liberal N proud Jul 2013 #100

You're confusing discovering the loss with losing them. wtmusic Jul 2013 #104

Making Snowden a hero isn't one of them liberal N proud Jul 2013 #105

Oh yay... one_voice Jul 2013 #54

So what you are saying laundry_queen Jul 2013 #110

I guess you missed this part of my comment... one_voice Jul 2013 #118

Didn't miss it laundry_queen Jul 2013 #123

You weren't here during the Smirk years, this is nothing, DU was far more unified in hating the US Fumesucker Jul 2013 #121

... at DU nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #56

Yet another Bush/Obama false equivalency. Greybnk48 Jul 2013 #57

I cant find a single comment from anyone "hating" the US. bunnies Jul 2013 #61

They should be hating the banksters that control our government. We are in the unfortunate Zorra Jul 2013 #64

don't worry temmer Jul 2013 #84

The book "The Ugly American" was written in the 1950s if my memory serves me correctly 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #108

Wow, you took a comment section from the Guardian tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #78

Hope he never finds the comment section of Yahoo News. FSogol Jul 2013 #81

Yahoo?! Good one. wtmusic Jul 2013 #101

Feel free to publish comments from any international publication wtmusic Jul 2013 #89

No need to hold your breath... tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #92

So...nothing. wtmusic Jul 2013 #95

That's what I said! tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #99

Not one example? From ANY international publication? wtmusic Jul 2013 #102

Oh, I'm sure that there are plenty out there... tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #109

A similar op-ed has been published in the Toronto Star. PDJane Jul 2013 #88

Does "German Green" have any relation to the American Green Party? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #112

The author was a minister in the German government muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #113

I ignore people of all kinds including Americans, which was pretty clearly made apparent in my post ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #119

So, falling back on the "he criticises Obama, so he must be racist" BS, huh? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #122