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zeemike

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12. In a sense it is an admission

Reply to DainBramaged (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:36 AM

Jul 2013

That the law is not working...
And I predict that is exactly what they will say...

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Obama’s Brilliant Move Deals A Blow To The GOP’s 2014 Hopes [View all] DainBramaged Jul 2013 OP

Thanks for posting this! I had briefly caught this, but this article you posted cleared it up for me! RKP5637 Jul 2013 #1

This is game changing DainBramaged Jul 2013 #2

Was this mandate meant to help people or hurt people? The Link Jul 2013 #3

If you have to ask that question, maybe you should revisit the law DainBramaged Jul 2013 #5

I guess a brilliant political move trumps helping those in need of it the most. The Link Jul 2013 #8

I agree! People needing RX or other care are Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #23

Screwing innocents isn't cool. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #45

winning in 2014 is essential. republicans are trying to remove the Affordable Health Care Act. bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #57

Uh huh durablend Jul 2013 #64

2014 will be a bloodbath for the Democrats Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #77

postponing = destroying lhooq Jul 2013 #88

Agreed Mr Dixon Jul 2013 #92

So it's only about "winning." Apophis Jul 2013 #117

Those who can't afford it DearAbby Jul 2013 #120

I believe we won't have that in Fl Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #141

Right. We need to "win" in 2014 so our own party can fuck us over too. Bake Jul 2013 #129

So, you would stick with 2014 in exchange for losing both houses of Congress to Republicans??? NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #82

That's a confession this law hurts Democrats. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #100

This law hurts democrats in that it's hot fuel for Republicans in political races. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #118

whatever DainBramaged Jul 2013 #114

No "innocents" will be screwed. pnwmom Jul 2013 #135

I buy the premise. sibelian Jul 2013 #7

A one year delay in this component does not mean Republicans cannot or will not use it as fodder LonePirate Jul 2013 #4

Of course, the glass is half empty..... DainBramaged Jul 2013 #6

In a sense it is an admission zeemike Jul 2013 #12

Right. In fact, it could be worse this way! thesquanderer Jul 2013 #18

I agree with you, I think you have the best analysis here. n/t SylviaD Jul 2013 #27

The RepublicCONS will use the delay as "proof" that ACA is unworkable. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #69

Already seeing the memes on facebook tonight. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #142

Once again, someone is playing politics Ilsa Jul 2013 #9

I don't understand how its a brilliant move to fuck with people who need help the most. The Link Jul 2013 #10

I agree. I think Ilsa Jul 2013 #11

Exactly! More spin - when people's lives are at stake. These people...n/t chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #48

"Playing politics with our healthcare" did not start yesterday and not by Obama. pampango Jul 2013 #17

I realize that. Ilsa Jul 2013 #39

I do not think this will diffuse much. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #13

I broke their fist with my nose... kentuck Jul 2013 #14

! bobduca Jul 2013 #53

The Administration isn't "flailing to find high-profile allies" - it's being *obstructed* Triana Jul 2013 #15

My concern WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #16

"See voters! It doesn't work!" tridim Jul 2013 #21

on target--again as usual--damn William Pitt is always on target.... dembotoz Jul 2013 #24

In a nutshell. This looks lose/lose to me. People don't get covered, and we lose the political chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #55

I thought the big advantage of implementing it soon Vietnameravet Jul 2013 #19

Not enough time for enough good experiences... allin99 Jul 2013 #42

This is some serious whistling past the graveyard. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #20

How can the GOP "talk it down" when it's already working and already saving people money? tridim Jul 2013 #22

"It's working so awesome we're gonna postpone it another year so the GOP can't Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #25

Exactly..... BrainDrain Jul 2013 #30

It is already working. Period. tridim Jul 2013 #33

I think you missed the part of the reporting Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #38

I blame business because I see it with my own eyes. tridim Jul 2013 #54

They hold all the cards but Obama gave them the 1 ace he held. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #104

Yup. ctsnowman Jul 2013 #74

If this administration was serious about ACA it would not have rolled it out xtraxritical Jul 2013 #84

This administration is 100% serious about PPACA. tridim Jul 2013 #95

What I'm talking about is it if it was not a gift to insurance companies it would not be law. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #103

You need to read the legislation. The part that is being delayed is a minimal part bluestate10 Jul 2013 #144

There is no legislation. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #147

That Part is Not Already Up and Running erpowers Jul 2013 #28

In other words, business barked and the politicians jumped. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #34

Seems That Way erpowers Jul 2013 #46

+100 RC Jul 2013 #26

I'm not quite there yet, nor do I care to be. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #32

And now I don't trust you. Congrats. tridim Jul 2013 #35

You do realize that Obamacare is a slightly reworked version of Romneycare? RC Jul 2013 #50

Noooo, really? tridim Jul 2013 #51

Why? Because private money rules in politics while it should be banned, and Amonester Jul 2013 #61

Excuses, excuses... RC Jul 2013 #75

Private money gave how much to Obama's campaign? Amonester Jul 2013 #99

And yet Obama is unburdened by running for re-election. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #106

GOP smells fear like randy buck smells the rut. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #90

++ pecwae Jul 2013 #105

This: CrispyQ Jul 2013 #128

The hallmark of any great piece of legislation Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #29

The ACA is already working. It is not a "trainwreck". tridim Jul 2013 #36

It's working? abelenkpe Jul 2013 #68

Yes, unless your boss is a law breaking, GOP asshole. tridim Jul 2013 #85

Nice abelenkpe Jul 2013 #97

With every change there will be people who benefit and some that face setbacks. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #145

I think you're going to be sorely disappointed since this law is going to be successful Politicub Jul 2013 #37

Sorry, I disagree... BrainDrain Jul 2013 #47

My two doctors think the ACA is important and necessary - a PCP and a specialist Politicub Jul 2013 #49

Millions more insured, rates falling daily (with actual refund checks), free preventative care... tridim Jul 2013 #52

Yeah, thats me... BrainDrain Jul 2013 #59

Insurance rates are falling because of the new law. tridim Jul 2013 #87

rates falling daily! Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #86

Yes, in the real world, premium rates are falling as a direct result of the law. tridim Jul 2013 #89

So mine have went up consecutively each year Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #93

If your insurer profits more than the law allows, you will be getting a refund check this year. tridim Jul 2013 #96

We do not receive the refund Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #101

Yeah, and we're saying that a law passed in 2010 can't be started until 2015? Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #58

Another reason why we need to turn the house blue in 2014 Politicub Jul 2013 #31

Completely Disagree erpowers Jul 2013 #40

Everything Obama does is Brilliant n2doc Jul 2013 #41

The view is better at the Church of O on Sundays. L0oniX Jul 2013 #102

Obama works in mysterious ways! nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #137

And then we can delay implementation until 2017 so as to deal a blow to the GOP's 2016 hopes. And Karmadillo Jul 2013 #43

It's totally AWESOME! durablend Jul 2013 #65

^this^ nt abelenkpe Jul 2013 #72

When we put the lives of citizens ahead of electoral victories, the terrorists win. Karmadillo Jul 2013 #91

Uhm, the Democrats wanted the ACA implimented immediately. tridim Jul 2013 #98

Now if only we could get those Republicans out of the House. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #109

Uhm, the Republicans had nothing to do with it madville Jul 2013 #131

Cynical cowering is not brilliance TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #44

I do not think I've ever seen 5 words used so well. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #60

You're more than welcome to it TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #146

This is not going to help us at the polls Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #56

This is not a brilliant move. HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #62

Good move! Iliyah Jul 2013 #63

This is one of the most wildly stupid things I've seen yet out of this administration Prism Jul 2013 #66

All great points. ctsnowman Jul 2013 #83

Agreed Prism. Puglover Jul 2013 #123

You are correct sir! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #130

This reminds me of Obama extending Bush tax cuts in 2010 then running against extending them again suffragette Jul 2013 #67

Every day Barack Obama is in office, I myself am a winner. The best after LBJ of all time. nt graham4anything Jul 2013 #80

Too funny. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #107

Out of all the posts on this thread, you respond to mine. suffragette Jul 2013 #112

Obama to Supporters: Nope! lhooq Jul 2013 #70

"Fool I was to put any faith in the President and his corporatist wing of the Democratic Party" DainBramaged Jul 2013 #133

This must be satire. forestpath Jul 2013 #71

Take that TeaPukers! SoapBox Jul 2013 #73

Regardless of this move.... Wounded Bear Jul 2013 #76

All Repubs need to say is caseymoz Jul 2013 #78

Now why would delaying that bit of the law be a good thing for Dems? Skip Intro Jul 2013 #79

He should try to push back the legalization of gay marriage to 2015, too. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #81

killing the sick and the poor to grease politics is "brilliant?" mike_c Jul 2013 #94

I thought the ACA was supposed to be a great thing. former9thward Jul 2013 #108

My thoughts exactly! HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #111

What a load of spin. Laelth Jul 2013 #110

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #115

The Affordable Care Act is a bridgehead, it's like D-Day Babel_17 Jul 2013 #113

So he's screwing over millions of uninsured with a brilliant political move? Apophis Jul 2013 #116

Politics is a chess game. cbdo2007 Jul 2013 #119

Millions of uninsured should never be pawns in a political chess game. Apophis Jul 2013 #125

Brilliant.....when it is revisited in 2016, with President Obama completely out of the picture... cbdo2007 Jul 2013 #121

It's sad that no matter what the President tries, a majority here now pull out the tar and feathers DainBramaged Jul 2013 #122

That's one way to look at it... n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #124

an additional year before the ACA mandatory employer and insurer reporting requirements begin DainBramaged Jul 2013 #126

Want To Know The RW Response? It's Already Been Puked Down From Above ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2013 #127

"I hope the administration recognizes the need... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #139

Wow so caving yet again is brilliant? bowens43 Jul 2013 #132

Does the Administration have the authority to delay these milestones madville Jul 2013 #134

This won't in any way prevent the GOP from running against 'Obmacare' markpkessinger Jul 2013 #136

President Obama removes every obstacle that the GOP can find to rally around. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #138

You know they'll still run against Obamacare that they've tried Cha Jul 2013 #140

Of course the "progressive" experts here on DU think differently. But, bluestate10 Jul 2013 #143

well lookie a "centrist" likes this capitulation! bobduca Jul 2013 #148

Brilliant move? 99Forever Jul 2013 #149