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TorchTheWitch

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78. point out where I "read Zimmerman's mind"
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:05 AM
Jul 2013

And point out where I speculated anything other than to emphasize a point. I'll wait.

No, the post was NOT written for those people that hated Zimmerman and were sure he was guilty, and I'M the one who's the authority on that because I'M the one who fucking wrote it. I wrote it as a reply in another thread and posted it as an OP only because a few people asked that I do so. I almost never write OP's here since I've been here as of 2003 or so.

I myself have never been one of those people that automatically thought he was guilty or that he was racist as my posts can attest to about this case when it first appeared on DU in particular when people were saying that he had no injuries whatsoever because of a grainy video at a distance from him taken at the police station when he first arrived there after the incident. I was one of VERY few people arguing that you couldn't tell from that video whether he had injuries or not especially because from the reports available at that time said he had injuries and that they were cleaned up.

I also was one of VERY few people at that time that didn't believe he said "coons" rather than "punks" nor did I believe and still don't as my more recent posts on the subject attest that this was ever about strictly race and that it was not only race that Zimmerman used to profile Martin, and STILL don't believe this case was every all about race.

I got interested in this trial because I LIKE certain trials particularly those that are more complicated in discovering what happened and who if anyone is at fault. I got interested in this one for the very fact that there WAS controversy about it and so little was known about what actually happened. And one of the things I LIKE about certain trials that I have interest in is connecting the evidence given during trial and the behavior of the attorneys on both sides, their questions, their objections (or lack thereof), the demeanor of the judge, the witnesses and everything else that goes along with any trial.

The biggest reason I did this analysis of the re-enactment is because I was pissed off at the prosecution who has all the way along been dropping the ball on clarifying damn near anything and not objecting when they should be as if they're asleep at the wheel. Observing attorneys on either side so badly doing their job just pisses me off in general. Bernie did a SHITTY job of clarifying all the lies and inconsistencies in this one piece of evidence alone, he's allowed the defense to go on with an entire stream of speculation from witnesses without objecting, and though he may have gotten some things stricken later (a whole fucking DAY later), the jury still heard it, and they're still not going to be able to totally disregard it because they're human. It's his damn JOB to object when he should during the questioning specifically so nobody ever hears that stuff to begin with, and I have to assume he sleeps through most of defense counsels' questioning since he's let them get by with so much.

So you know what you can do with YOUR attempts of mind reading when it comes to MY mind about my OP or anything at all about this trial.

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And there are NO bushes. And there are address numbers by the doors... Tx4obama Jul 2013 #1
K&R! Roland99 Jul 2013 #2
If the prosecution makes its case half as well as you do... Nine Jul 2013 #3
that coward will never take the stand, so they offer this crap in his place Skittles Jul 2013 #4
The pros presented the video and entered it into evidence ceonupe Jul 2013 #26
so convict him of manslaughter and jail the bastard Skittles Jul 2013 #35
But ceonupe Jul 2013 #39
WTF Skittles Jul 2013 #44
Yes travon was ceonupe Jul 2013 #46
"vomiting a crime" Skittles Jul 2013 #47
How is a 158 lb teen phsically stronger brush Jul 2013 #50
Ground and pound... Pelican Jul 2013 #58
Intent to kill isn't a requirement for 2nd Degree Murder Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #85
Bookmarking to read later. Thanks! Lucinda Jul 2013 #5
Well done. Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #6
probably, but I don't think it matters TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #9
is that the call where he says the thing about these fucking ##$##@ , they always get away ? JI7 Jul 2013 #11
Yup n/t TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #13
His call said "fucking punks" didnt it? I'm assuming your **&*& is to mean the n-word? 7962 Jul 2013 #18
no, i think he said the C word JI7 Jul 2013 #19
"these assholes always get away" uppityperson Jul 2013 #28
oh, now i remember , the "fucking #$#$#" was what he said as he was chasing JI7 Jul 2013 #32
In all honesty I always thought he said "punks" TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #59
I agree. I've thought the same. yardwork Jul 2013 #65
I dont think the C-word would be broadcast!! And why on earth use THAT word? 7962 Jul 2013 #70
No, it wasn't 'punks'. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #71
have you seen the HAnnity interview ? it looks like there will be a lot more lies that show up JI7 Jul 2013 #7
I have no doubt there's plenty more to come TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #8
Excellent! displacedtexan Jul 2013 #10
yeah, i was kind of getting worried since it seemed like they were just allowing the defense JI7 Jul 2013 #12
The movie lines "You got me" and "You're going to die tonight" are incredible tells. yardwork Jul 2013 #14
don't forget the classic, "What the fuck is your problem, homie?!" ecstatic Jul 2013 #31
Yeah, So "Make My Day" Dialog!!! ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #57
truthfully, the first time I watched that I laughed TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #60
"You got me" is cops-and-robbers crap. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #77
Good job TTW. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #15
The part I found odd....... Grassy Knoll Jul 2013 #16
Not too many black teenage young men Iliyah Jul 2013 #17
He shot him in the heart. Th1onein Jul 2013 #22
Your lungs are right behind your heart. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #29
The jacketed hollow point bullet entered the heart, fragmented csziggy Jul 2013 #33
Dumb luck? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #42
LOL! I understand that, but if you are shot in the heart, you stop. Period. Th1onein Jul 2013 #36
Death by gun shot is not always instantaneous, even with a heart shot. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #43
But a lot of people might yell out "Oh God, you shot me". Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #30
Who says "gosh" anymore? brush Jul 2013 #51
I'm not saying Martin said "gosh". Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #61
Nah! Martin never said anythig close to brush Jul 2013 #66
Yes, it's very hard to imagine that anybody would say anything remotely like that when shot to death yardwork Jul 2013 #87
k&r HappyMe Jul 2013 #20
The Asian guy witnessed blood on Z's face? If so then there's NO DOUBT it should be on TMs hands uponit7771 Jul 2013 #21
If there was blood on his face here's my theory. Lugnut Jul 2013 #49
Anyone else notice this about Zimmerman? Th1onein Jul 2013 #23
and from yesterday he kept referring to Trayvon as a "suspect" JI7 Jul 2013 #24
He's a cop wannabe. Th1onein Jul 2013 #37
Take a real firearms saftey and combat pistol course ceonupe Jul 2013 #27
He called Trayvon the "suspect" AFTER he found out Trayvon was dead csziggy Jul 2013 #34
He wasn't talking about "securing" his weapon. Watch the video. Th1onein Jul 2013 #38
And wanting to be a cop has what to do with murder ceonupe Jul 2013 #41
After today's testimony brush Jul 2013 #54
I get it ceonupe Jul 2013 #63
The haymaker? yardwork Jul 2013 #64
I'm saying Z is lying about all of that brush Jul 2013 #67
If you can't get the connection, there's no explaining it to you. Th1onein Jul 2013 #68
State did not prove beyond reasonable doubt so far ceonupe Jul 2013 #69
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. However, you'd be wrong. Th1onein Jul 2013 #90
I'm not sure why this matters. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #45
'nother kick (nt) Nine Jul 2013 #25
K&R el scorcho Jul 2013 #40
lots of that story does not match the police call that I heard hfojvt Jul 2013 #48
not my problem if you haven't seen the testimony TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #53
whether I have seen the testimony or not hfojvt Jul 2013 #74
point out where I "read Zimmerman's mind" TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #78
I already did that in post 48 hfojvt Jul 2013 #82
no, it is not TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #84
I said I made a mistake, didn't I? hfojvt Jul 2013 #89
Believe me brush Jul 2013 #55
Originally he told the police that it wasn't him screaming on the tape. Nevernose Jul 2013 #72
But later his story changed brush Jul 2013 #75
So we're in agreement: Nevernose Jul 2013 #81
Yes. Agreed. nt brush Jul 2013 #88
you seem to contradict yourself as well hfojvt Jul 2013 #73
Trayvon did have a right to defend himself brush Jul 2013 #76
Wow.... AZ Mike Jul 2013 #52
This is really good. bravenak Jul 2013 #56
The guy is a cop wannabe who profiled the kid with prejudice and has problems with his story, BUT RBInMaine Jul 2013 #62
If we didn't have his "these assholes always get away" and "fucking punks" comments on tape... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #86
And what was GZ's main concern? Politicalboi Jul 2013 #79
i keep going back to blueknight Jul 2013 #80
Bookmarked for later! Little Star Jul 2013 #83
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