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55. I'm not at all convinced that "rigorous training" is the cure here. You can be rigorously trained an

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:42 AM

Jul 2013

at the same time be a seriously unhinged zealot or a determined criminally inclined individual. Such people are not likely to be fazed by rigorous training in gun use. In fact, I think the opposite is true.

I'm sure you can't imagine ever doing what he did. But that is a problem right there. The fact is that there are incredibly irresponsible, ignorant and lazy people who can nonetheless get guns. It's out there every day as long as we fail as a nation to pass reasonable gun safety laws.

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Gun "Accidentally" Kills 16 Year Old In Louisiana [View all] SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 OP

What crime other than Negligent Homicide would you charge him with? hack89 Jul 2013 #1

Seems like the right charge, but I consider the penalty inadequate. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #5

I'm not at all convinced that "rigorous training" is the cure here. You can be rigorously trained an CTyankee Jul 2013 #55

I'm not suggesting it's a crime prevention measure. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #57

I want to thank you for your clearheaded assessment of reasonable gun safety laws such as CTyankee Jul 2013 #65

Five Years For Taking A Life? SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #15

The law is the law. 5 years is not an uncommon sentence for negligent homicide. hack89 Jul 2013 #20

He'll Find A Way SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #22

Good. our laws are working. nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #2

training is important Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #3

I would support legislations that forced a person ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #4

I like that. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #6

Fuckin' A Right. Iggo Jul 2013 #31

That's and excellent idea. MH1 Jul 2013 #61

I would add, Jenoch Jul 2013 #16

Unfortunately, people don't follow basic rules. Even folks who "teach" those basic rules screw up. Hoyt Jul 2013 #51

But, but . . . guns are just inanimate objects BainsBane Jul 2013 #7

Well, the gun was unharmed. Robb Jul 2013 #8

the gun was not unharmed...it was victimized by a 23yo dumbass. ileus Jul 2013 #12

The Gun Will Go On To Lead A Productive Life SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #13

Post of the year alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #39

"he pulled the trigger to clear the gun" NickB79 Jul 2013 #9

and why the hell have it pointed at someone? MH1 Jul 2013 #63

Looking at that headline, it seems that guns actually DO kill people. Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #10

Wut??? you clear the chamber by pulling the trigger... ileus Jul 2013 #11

nice bullshit headline ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #14

like this car drove into walmart Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #18

If we took a poll Jenoch Jul 2013 #17

Not a responsible gun owner Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #19

Unfortunately, right now, everyone is a responsible gun owner... Marrah_G Jul 2013 #66

But He WAS A Responsible Gun Owner SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #21

You are mistaken. Jenoch Jul 2013 #23

no he was not Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #24

you can be irresponsible with lots of things and kill people ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #26

Guns don't kill people idiots with guns kill people upaloopa Jul 2013 #29

but that isn't how it's portrayed by many here ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #32

Yes there is little logic in most of tbese threads. upaloopa Jul 2013 #35

I disagree. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #30

Not everyone. Just people who want guns. upaloopa Jul 2013 #33

I think everyone should Jenoch Jul 2013 #43

I am speaking for people like my wife. She hates guns upaloopa Jul 2013 #45

I was thinking of people Jenoch Jul 2013 #46

I disagree. Guns represent violence and killing to some upaloopa Jul 2013 #49

"...parents have the duty to raise their kids as they see fit." Jenoch Jul 2013 #50

another death caused by the NRA sigmasix Jul 2013 #25

Why would close friends and family, Jenoch Jul 2013 #34

I have friends and family that are teabagger gun nuts sigmasix Jul 2013 #47

Wow, that's a lot of NRA. Jenoch Jul 2013 #48

you're lucky sigmasix Jul 2013 #53

How do you know they are Jenoch Jul 2013 #54

the ballcaps, tshirts and membership decals on their trucks sigmasix Jul 2013 #58

Are you having similar problems Jenoch Jul 2013 #60

we live in the city here now sigmasix Jul 2013 #67

define murder... ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #41

Here's the correct headline from the article you linked. CokeMachine Jul 2013 #27

Thanks Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #37

take a guess... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #40

Here's the time stamp. CokeMachine Jul 2013 #44

So was this guy trained to use this weapon upaloopa Jul 2013 #28

It is evident that he was not trained to handle that weapon. Jenoch Jul 2013 #36

or any weapon nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #38

I have read about Jenoch Jul 2013 #42

Gun Handling 101: Big-time fail. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #56

In a just world, he would be banned from owning or even touching guns FOR LIFE. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #52

You never see a headline "Gun hits target" or "Gun shoots deer". bluedigger Jul 2013 #59

enter the first rule of firearm safety onethatcares Jul 2013 #62

The guy that pulled the trigger made a horrible mistake and will pay for it. rrneck Jul 2013 #64

Another responsible gun owner, until he was not. madinmaryland Jul 2013 #68