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Catherina

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4. Right. NO inspection & the 1st extradition request went to Vienna after a call from US Ambassador
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

This whole thing was deliberate, dishonest and ugly.

US Requested that Vienna Extradite Snowden

03.07.2013 | 21:28 | HELMAR DUMBS UND CHRISTIAN ULTSCH (Die Presse)

Bolivian President Morales was forced to land in Vienna. NSA whistleblower Snowden was suspected to be on his jet. In a telephone conversation with the Foreign Office, the U.S. ambassador demanded they extradite him.



Here's the crucial section:

Sie landete gegen 23 Uhr. Kurz danach ging im Wiener Außenamt ein dringlicher Anruf ein. Am anderen Ende der Leitung: US-Botschafter William Eacho. Wie "Die Presse" erfuhr, behauptete er mit großer Bestimmtheit, dass Edward Snowden an Bord sei, der von den USA gesuchte Aufdecker jüngster Abhörskandale. Eacho habe auf eine diplomatische Note verwiesen, in der die USA die Auslieferung Snowdens verlangten.

Translated:

It landed about 11 pm. Shortly after that, the Vienna foreign department received a phone call. The caller was the US embassador William Echo. "Die Presse" learned that he claimed with strong firmness that Edward Snowden was onboard, the whistleblower of the recent surveillance scandals. Eacho referred to a diplomatic note requesting Snowden's extradition.


http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1426275/USA-verlangten-von-Wien-Snowdens-Auslieferung?_vl_backlink=/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1416110/index.do&direct=1416110


Thanks to Temmer for that translation


Un peu plus tôt, le chef de l'Etat autrichien, Heinz Fischer, venu à l'aéroport pour rencontrer son homologue bolivien, avait affirmé que les "conditions sont remplies pour une poursuite du voyage". "Les passeports ont été contrôlés et, contrairement aux rumeurs qui ont circulé, Edward Snowden n'était pas à bord", a déclaré à le porte-parole du ministère de l'intérieur, Karl-Heinz Grundboeck. L'avion n'a pas été fouillé. "Il n'y avait aucune raison légale pour une fouille", a-t-il dit.

A little earlier, the Head of State, Heinz Fischer, who had come to the airport to meet his Bolivian counterpart, affirmed that "conditions have been fulfilled to continue the trip". "Passports have been verified and, contrary to rumors, Edward Snowden is not on board", declared the spokesperson for the Interior Ministry,Karl-Heinz Grundboeck. The plane was not searched. "There was no legal reason for a search", he said.

http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/article/2013/07/03/une-rumeur-sur-snowden-provoque-une-crise-diplomatique-entre-paris-et-la-paz_3440849_3222.html

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Yes. sibelian Jul 2013 #1
No onboard inspection. THAT would explain the extradition request.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #2
Right. NO inspection & the 1st extradition request went to Vienna after a call from US Ambassador Catherina Jul 2013 #4
Thank you. As you are aware, I also have posted quite a bit from Der Standard and Le Monde. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #19
They're so scattered around depending on the issue :( Catherina Jul 2013 #40
Could you contact Skinner about it? I don't know how these things work. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #42
That caught my eye too Rstrstx Jul 2013 #5
This incident could become the Tora Bora of the "Where's Snowden?" controversy... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #8
I think the Austrian government was embarrassed to be involved in this Catherina Jul 2013 #52
The reaction of the people of the region and their leaders will determine if this event is a minor byeya Jul 2013 #3
In the interest of fairness, I'll point out something he gets wrong magellan Jul 2013 #6
Europe is relatively small. Zorra Jul 2013 #16
Do you have a link for your information? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #20
The map is in the post you responded to magellan Jul 2013 #51
I don't think it's wrong Catherina Jul 2013 #24
Are we looking at the same map? magellan Jul 2013 #55
Here, just chanced upon a video showing that his plane was ON the French border Catherina Jul 2013 #77
Wow, that totally contradicts the playback record at FlightRadar24! magellan Jul 2013 #78
Fairness? What a strange thing to say. Rex Jul 2013 #30
Why strange? magellan Jul 2013 #50
The anti-NSA ripple is spreading and turning ino a tsunami. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #7
Twitter has changed the term from "Snowdened" to "Avalanche'den" lol n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #53
Thank you for staying on top of this. Cleita Jul 2013 #9
^^this! nashville_brook Jul 2013 #10
+1 Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #11
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #12
Yes, they need to be like Bolivia, Oh wait, Bolivia spies on it's citizens!!!! ROFLMAO stevenleser Jul 2013 #13
That's it? Rex Jul 2013 #17
Yes! stevenleser Jul 2013 #18
Is this prescribed therapy for you? byeya Jul 2013 #21
Right-wingers do it to extremes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #23
oh steven, put down the shovel frylock Jul 2013 #46
But we are suppsoed to be a beacon of freedom in the world that the rest of the world totodeinhere Jul 2013 #54
K+R sibelian Jul 2013 #14
Start with NATO? (nt) MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #15
Funny you mention that, several papers asked that question too n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #26
Abso-fucking-lutly! idwiyo Jul 2013 #38
Up to those European countries what their relations are with the US treestar Jul 2013 #22
The UN will decide. Morales' government also said and it was printed in a Bolivian online paper JDPriestly Jul 2013 #25
And for all we know, they may have something on Obama. zeemike Jul 2013 #39
I must say that sibelian Jul 2013 #44
They probably have or could have "something" on just about every adult American. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #45
FYI CHIMO Jul 2013 #72
Yes. I was a John Edwards fan because he was the only candidate with any background JDPriestly Jul 2013 #76
He is not ordering them to do it Doctor_J Jul 2013 #27
I doubt you would be surprised how many people in EU agree with Mr Morales. idwiyo Jul 2013 #31
You Go, Evo! ReRe Jul 2013 #28
You go Evo! zeemike Jul 2013 #29
K&R Go Evo! idwiyo Jul 2013 #32
I think Bolivia should return all foreign aid from the US. True, it isn't much, but Evo should msanthrope Jul 2013 #33
Why? Because he dares to criticize the US? lunatica Jul 2013 #35
He just said they need to liberate themselves!! Throw off the chains of money, then! nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #36
After this, they might. sibelian Jul 2013 #43
That's the argument lots of idiocrats use lunatica Jul 2013 #66
Really? treestar Jul 2013 #61
All or nothing thinking is stinking lunatica Jul 2013 #67
Right after US compensates Bolivia for all the harm done by US and its cronies over the years. idwiyo Jul 2013 #41
Bolivia went to Russia to sign am oil and gas agreement with Putin. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #47
Yes--and with Iran and the Egyptian military, too. So they should send back the aid. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #48
Then we should certainly stop giving any aid to any and all of them. treestar Jul 2013 #62
Any foreign aid that they get from us could be replaced and then some by China. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #57
Then let China pay for it! treestar Jul 2013 #63
They will glady do that and then our influence in that part of the world will be even less. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #69
They get foreign aid from us? Cleita Jul 2013 #60
I grew up in Mexico. I get it. lunatica Jul 2013 #34
I am thoroughly American but have lived in other parts of the world. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #49
It appears this has turned into a major diplomatic screw-up. kentuck Jul 2013 #37
It's coming. nt Javaman Jul 2013 #56
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #58
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Jul 2013 #59
If we stopped being an empire we would be a great nation lunatica Jul 2013 #64
Now taking odds on future European assets about to be siezed Savannahmann Jul 2013 #65
I've been listening to the live coverage of the UNASUR meeting Catherina Jul 2013 #73
And there are going to be a lot of Europeans who will cheer up for nationalisation. I sure will! idwiyo Jul 2013 #75
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #68
They've used those garlands for ages in Bolivia. He didn't choose it. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #71
Nevertheless alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #74
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Jul 2013 #70
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