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19. 5. The Claim: US presents Bolivia with an extradition request for Edward Snowden

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:39 PM

Jul 2013

Claim: U.S. Government has presented Bolivia with an extradition request for the former CIA anylist Edward Snowden, according to Bolivia's Minister of Foreign Affairs

According Foreign Minister Choquehuanca this extradition request explains the actions of several European countries when they closed their airspace to the plane of the president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, thinking that Edward Snowden could be on that on the plane.

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Fact: The U.S. Government sent letters to all countries that are potential asylum targets for Snowden. Not just Bolivia.

http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/99109-eeuu-bolivia-solicitud-extradicion-snowden

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Disinformation and manipulation created the Evogate narrative - Starting with Portugal [View all] flamingdem Jul 2013 OP

What would happen if Air Force One got that treatment? dkf Jul 2013 #1

AF1 wouldn't get that treatment because there's a limited number of airports it can use, and those msanthrope Jul 2013 #25

And when a fuel gauge goes bad? dkf Jul 2013 #27

It depends---if the pilot declared an emergency then the emergency protocols would kick msanthrope Jul 2013 #37

Oh my didn't follow the exact protocol when the AIRPLANE WAS POSSIBLY LOW ON FUEL. dkf Jul 2013 #42

They would just fly to the Azores itsrobert Jul 2013 #30

That would be my guess. Or one of the German bases. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #38

AF1 can be refueled mid-air. n/t tammywammy Jul 2013 #61

And that tanker would fly from the Azores or Mildenhall itsrobert Jul 2013 #62

You're one of our local expert on those subjects, I take it? eom leveymg Jul 2013 #2

This thread is useless without maps. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #3

heh Enrique Jul 2013 #13

Why shouldn't Morales plane have refueled in Lisbon? burnodo Jul 2013 #4

That could be anything like scheduling, they had two days to reroute and did not nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Jul 2013 #5

Stop the presses, flamingdem has the scoop! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #6

2. Evogate False Claim: Spain denied use of its airspace, refueling and insisted on inspection flamingdem Jul 2013 #7

You all have officially lost your collective minds in your determination to deny reality. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #8

The alternative is just too damn painful! morningfog Jul 2013 #12

The only pain for me is disinformation and you'll see there was blatant information to build Evogate flamingdem Jul 2013 #36

Must be some sort of conspiracy. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #9

Read Post #14 for DISINFORMATION planted in a story about US Ambassador Eacho calling Austrians flamingdem Jul 2013 #21

Yes, I know, it's just outrageous how people will make things up. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #28

3. Evogate False Claim: Bolivian Plane flatly refused authorization to fly over France flamingdem Jul 2013 #10

Did you even read your own excerpt? ljm2002 Jul 2013 #26

I'd say this is the least well explained flamingdem Jul 2013 #32

I responded to a post of yours... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #43

Because the information and context of the statements is unclear flamingdem Jul 2013 #47

All of which has ZIP to do with... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #50

Okay I have revise that one to reflect the vague flamingdem Jul 2013 #53

"France has apologized to Bolivia for closing its airspace to President Evo Morales" PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #39

Develop theories to your heart's content. We still have a continent pissed about it. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #11

That was the point of the Bolivian exaggeration, that plus incompetence flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

4. Evogate False Claim: US Ambassador intervened, Austria held Morales "captive" + searched plane flamingdem Jul 2013 #14

you all need to start working on your pivot Enrique Jul 2013 #15

Got to wring everything they can out of obfuscation first, apparently. DirkGently Jul 2013 #17

We've known all about this since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something Fumesucker Jul 2013 #18

LOL! JimDandy Jul 2013 #35

Oh for the sake of... Savannahmann Jul 2013 #16

Refer to the Original Post about Portugal. They said it was a two day discussion that Bolivia flamingdem Jul 2013 #44

You still don't get it. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #52

What Portugal said on the matter says they didn't give permission. Yes, if this is truly a problem flamingdem Jul 2013 #54

5. The Claim: US presents Bolivia with an extradition request for Edward Snowden flamingdem Jul 2013 #19

So they did change their behaviors due to US requests! You just proved it. dkf Jul 2013 #31

The letter was very rote as quoted by the Bolivians flamingdem Jul 2013 #34

That is not normal treatment for a head of state and you know it. dkf Jul 2013 #40

We don't know exactly what happened. The US is not going "apeshit" they are waiting for their quarry flamingdem Jul 2013 #45

We don't know what happened? burnodo Jul 2013 #57

Hey flamingdem, notice how none of the folks in this thread can dispute any of the facts you posted? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #22

Hi CD! Yes, the updates are of no interest to those who see gain in poutrage! flamingdem Jul 2013 #24

LOL...that right. Snowden was in an entirely different airport Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #33

6. Claim: Ermagod the USA thinks Snowden is on the plane and tried to nab him! flamingdem Jul 2013 #29

Because it's physically impossible to travel 27 miles by, say, car ?? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #41

That would mean Putin approved and he's not looking for those kinds of problems flamingdem Jul 2013 #46

Yes because everything governments do is always 'all documented'. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #48

Well they know that no one would believe it if he left without that flamingdem Jul 2013 #49

+1 K&R nt. Solid debunking. graham4anything Jul 2013 #51

Why thank you for the compliment! flamingdem Jul 2013 #55

Happy 4th of July! nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #56

Have a link to the map of Lisbon handy? idwiyo Jul 2013 #58

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #59

It took a while but I think I've finally gotten your point. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #60

So in short, brown people who do not speak english nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #63

Meh, the media just regurgitated more puke. I'm so impressed by the dazzling bullshit. *not* freshwest Aug 2013 #64