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8. "..We Can Neither Confirm Nor Deny The Existence Or NonExistence Of Records.."

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Jul 2013

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It's so, so simple. Just tell us it's bullshit. [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 OP

Why should the president demean himself to answer such insulting allegations? Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #1

Well, he's denied all sorts of other stuff MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #3

If he denied it, would that be the end of it for you? n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #11

It would be an important piece of evidence. nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #16

So, no, it's not that simple. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #18

As I wrote, "would go a long way" nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #19

But not as you wrote, "so so simple." n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #23

Ever listen to Phil Hendrie? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #26

No, you'd say he was lying. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #39

Oh no! The denial itself would be parsed. treestar Jul 2013 #129

Since when is proving your not a bully demeaning? Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #6

precisely -- most would jump at the chance to distance themselves from this fiasco nashville_brook Jul 2013 #100

You do not honestly believe the US played no role. morningfog Jul 2013 #17

On the one hand, I have someone who has accused the US of poisoning Hugo Chavez. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #22

Obama would have been cui fucking bonoed had Snowden morningfog Jul 2013 #28

"The French have apologized" Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #37

No, when Hollande learned it was Morales plane he granted the airspace request Fumesucker Jul 2013 #87

The chain of events on how the French decision was made needs to be laid out. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #88

Who thought Snowden was on the plane? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #91

That is one of the $64,000 questions. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #159

everything is Obama's job, silly treestar Jul 2013 #130

yes dionysus Jul 2013 #30

Do you read French, German or Spanish? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #49

Had German way too long ago to matter anymore Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #55

No. The French government has already offered a rather insufficient apology. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #67

Insufficient unless that's what happened, you mean. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #69

You might have a valid point Caretha Jul 2013 #111

No reason to think Morales was lying. And the entire event violated long established diplomatic JDPriestly Jul 2013 #117

Thank you for shining light onto the situation. truedelphi Jul 2013 #80

Just try reading some and listening to some on YouTube if you can find it. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #118

So has the US surveillance of Germany stopped? marions ghost Jul 2013 #108

The number is from the past because it refers to peak days. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #116

What I'm asking is... marions ghost Jul 2013 #143

Apparently some post-WWII treaty or agreement allows us to keep close watch over Germany. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #182

Snowden says we are in bed with the Germans marions ghost Jul 2013 #183

True. If you read and could translate any foreign languages, please e-mail me via DU. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #184

But remember; they're not Amurrken, so they're lying to make Amurrka look bad! Scootaloo Jul 2013 #178

uh, like motive? caseymoz Jul 2013 #70

From your link: Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #71

Why are you evading my question? caseymoz Jul 2013 #74

I abandon you to your contempt and your bad faith. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #76

Still evading . . . caseymoz Jul 2013 #78

I didn't put you on ignore. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #79

Morales stated that he did not let anyone on the plane and that it was never searched. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #120

thank you, n/t bcbink Jul 2013 #103

Accusations can be made in any language treestar Jul 2013 #131

Who ALSO benefits from seeing the US accused in this fashion? MADem Jul 2013 #96

How does getting stopped and frisked help Morales' esteem? reusrename Jul 2013 #135

It's always projection. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #136

Why do you think these peoples' rights are not respected? reusrename Jul 2013 #156

He could condemn the disrespect to a fellow democratically elected president. That would sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #20

OK, so deny he did it (from Manny) and now condemn it (from you). Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #25

He won't do it. HE may have had nothing to do with it. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #45

A Bolivian newspaper claimed that Morales said it was a breach of an international agreement. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #44

Exactly, and that is why now, Europeans are rushing to apologize. Once those rules are violated, sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #50

Agreed. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #52

Nailed it (as usual :) - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #58

That is precisely the problem. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #85

He'd have to be VERY certain no one in the CIA made calls leftstreet Jul 2013 #21

Bingo! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #27

wgy kardonb Jul 2013 #41

It was demeaning to respond to birthers because they were making crap up. sibelian Jul 2013 #72

and yet there was a clear response RE the birth certificate. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #98

Years after the birther BS went on and on. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #104

yes, and the fact that they kept on was their foul. your analogy is still quite weak...but worse, nashville_brook Jul 2013 #105

Once again, the line I am responding to from the OP Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #106

we get that -- you're way, waaaay off. use the birther smear all you want, it's lame. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #113

Exactly. It's not a made-up narrative. Ugly false equivalency fail. DirkGently Jul 2013 #114

The president orchestrated this whole elaborate series of events? That's not imaginary? Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #134

He doesn't have to have orchestrated it sibelian Jul 2013 #177

I am quoting the OP. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #179

OK, thanks for clarifying. nt. sibelian Jul 2013 #181

it's not remotely the same. this is an international incident that cali Jul 2013 #83

"orchestrating a series of extraordinary international events to force down the plane..." Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #84

gee, did I say any such thing? No. but the U.S. has refused to cali Jul 2013 #86

The OP did. I'll wait while you go read it and see what I'm responding to. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #89

why would the president allow the US to be in the position of NEEDING to explain? nashville_brook Jul 2013 #97

cause he probably did it or ordered it done? galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #125

He could spend all day denying these lunatic bullshit charges treestar Jul 2013 #128

The President works for us. He is not God. He is not King. He is responsible to us. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #154

A birther couldn't have said it any better. n/t Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #155

You have nothing but name calling. Shame. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #157

From your post: "Your post is absurd. Your idolic worship is childish." Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #158

do you understand the difference? "your post is absurd", vs. you are a birther. Do you think rhett o rick Jul 2013 #162

I never said you were a birther, rhett o rick. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #164

You have nothing but name calling. Low down name calling. Plez go away and pester someone rhett o rick Jul 2013 #165

You responded to me. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #166

If Obama has nothing to hide why is not being forthcoming. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #2

Manny, have you stopped beating your wife? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #4

Yes, a few weeks ago. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #7

Because she showed up over here.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #29

you need to try harder manny. dionysus Jul 2013 #34

Yes, he does try harder. And for what? Th1onein Jul 2013 #64

Because ProSense Jul 2013 #5

So he is a bully. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #9

"It just makes the bully look like a douche." ProSense Jul 2013 #10

Ducks do quack. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #13

The international law requires countries to respect the immunity of the heads of state among others JDPriestly Jul 2013 #51

"..We Can Neither Confirm Nor Deny The Existence Or NonExistence Of Records.." Segami Jul 2013 #8

Maybe he's not denying it because it's true. Cleita Jul 2013 #12

"We don't have the best record in dealing with world leaders we don't like." sheshe2 Jul 2013 #48

He's not the President I would have liked best, a real Democrat who works for Cleita Jul 2013 #144

The political leaders, the media spokespeople, party loyalists, truedelphi Jul 2013 #139

If you speak up in some situations, then your silence in others is telling. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #14

Or he could apologize for being an arrogant douche... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #15

Why should he grovel for people who hate him? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #40

Uh, maybe because he made a collassal fuck up.... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #54

Haters are never gonna trust him. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #57

So you think the US Ambassador to Austria acted unilaterally, HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #60

This has been confirmed or just reported on a random geek tragedy Jul 2013 #62

Austrian govt said so. It was reported. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #63

Just sayin'.... Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #73

So let me get this straight - in your world, a person doesn't have to truedelphi Jul 2013 #81

I am saying that people who hate the US geek tragedy Jul 2013 #110

And Orwell's words live on, and he was saying: truedelphi Jul 2013 #138

John Kerry said "backyard," and now half of DU thinks he's just another gringo imperialist BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #24

No one is safe. ProSense Jul 2013 #32

Those comments are fun BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #36

You get nothing. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #31

Manny, Hi sheshe2 here. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #33

Which remark(s) in particular? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #123

Manny, you asked a question~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2013 #151

But you know you won't hear that. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #35

Don't you know,... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #38

Yeah, right. And you'll call the denial bullshit. -nt CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #42

Is it true you are still beating your wife and kicking your dog? kristopher Jul 2013 #43

Bingo Hekate Jul 2013 #68

The bully pulpit is now the BULLY's pulpit. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #46

Yep. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #61

Wasn't that what is always was? treestar Jul 2013 #132

Sorry, Manny but you know damn well if the White House denied it, people would call them liars Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #47

Exactly. randome Jul 2013 #93

You are right on one thing here Manny. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #53

Our Government has: Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #56

+ 1. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #82

"The government" is not a single immortal entity WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #137

Joe McCarthy. The MIC couldn't use Fascism as a reason to inflate its profits Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #153

Again, overly simplistic WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #171

Oh I'm done talking to you. A history PhD Candidate is getting a lecture. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #172

You might be interested in chervilant Jul 2013 #161

hang in there Manny Phlem Jul 2013 #59

First, they would want to see his birth cert. Then they would want to know when he stopped beating Hekate Jul 2013 #65

you first bigtree Jul 2013 #66

Didn't you post that you were taking a break or something? Number23 Jul 2013 #75

Sure, but he also predicted the death of JoePhilly Jul 2013 #90

Just keep in mind Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #77

Now you did it, Manny will post ten OP's about being called a simpleton. great white snark Jul 2013 #112

I only do that for the insane stuff MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #121

What a wonderfully "uncomplicated" way of stating your opinion. dawg Jul 2013 #119

At this point everyone pretty much knows it's true. JoeyT Jul 2013 #92

Ouch. Painfully accurate. N/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #115

Observing your sig... brooklynite Jul 2013 #94

Yet. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #124

good one brooklynite! treestar Jul 2013 #133

Doesn't matter what he says at this point, he lacks credibility. bowens43 Jul 2013 #95

I think the administration has lost..... NCTraveler Jul 2013 #99

i wonder if this would have happened with Hillary still in the Sec of State position nashville_brook Jul 2013 #101

-1 Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #102

What, specifically, is the problem? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #140

Is the world always waiting for denials on issues that may or may not have direct US involvement? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #141

Do you realize that South America's leaders had an emergency meeting yesterday MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #142

And do you realize that this "crisis" for all appearances is 100% contrived? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #145

No, I don't. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #146

Well, Manny, let's be totally honest: Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #147

I said that? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #148

YOU, want a freaking link? tridim Jul 2013 #167

Link or slink MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #168

Link. DERPster. tridim Jul 2013 #169

I don't see a link... show us what you got. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #170

I prefer my President to deal in reality and ignore tin-foil libertarian fantasyland. tridim Jul 2013 #107

France denied airspace, Portugal denied landing, Spain and Austria have said they were told Snowden morningfog Jul 2013 #163

Probably a Tee Time Issue.. greytdemocrat Jul 2013 #109

But No Drama Obama doesn't do that sort of stuff n2doc Jul 2013 #122

The most effective way of telling us it's bullshit in weaselspeak is still being debated. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #126

Medieval treestar Jul 2013 #127

Some might have concluded the US has a "drone-happy" mentality by which indepat Jul 2013 #149

the phrase "plausible deniability" is made for such events arely staircase Jul 2013 #150

What, you're not used to this dying empire doing what all dying empires do? tavalon Jul 2013 #160

FYI: ProSense Jul 2013 #173

Forgive me for being dense, but MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #174

Impossible, that would end the record breaking chant of Rex Jul 2013 #175

The US gov't will neither confirm nor deny it's covert abuses of the rule of law. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #176

You really expect President Obama to weigh in on every crackpot theory involving the US? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #180

But, this one had the US ambassador in Austria making one call. morningfog Jul 2013 #185