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Cleita

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9. Closing the embassy is something Morales has been itching to so. He does not trust

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:34 AM

Jul 2013

us after our attempt to overthrow and assassinate Hugo Chavez and he knows he's in our State Department's gun sights since he refused to stop the coca farmers from growing the plant because of our war on drugs. The less there is an American presence in Bolivia the less are the chances of our CIA plotting to overthrow him. I think that's his motivation for seizing on this opportunity to give the USA the boot.

Our drug war goons have no understanding that coca is a traditional plant used to acclimatize the natives to the high altitudes. It also fuels our illegal cocaine trade. But it's part of the native culture and us going in and demanding that all the coca fields be destroyed is part of America's tradition of bullying other nations to do what we want. Morales has stood up to us in this regard and now we are gunning for him.

This latest incident is part of that, but I think we really stuck our feet in hot water this time.

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Evo Morales threatens to close US embassy in Bolivia as leaders weigh in [View all] cali Jul 2013 OP

Well, he threw the ambassador out a while back, so what else is new? MADem Jul 2013 #1

countries like Argentina and Venezuela and Ecuador are firmly on his side cali Jul 2013 #2

Of course they are--they're all good friends, and they back one another up, even when they MADem Jul 2013 #5

That criticism is deserved over restrictions on the press cali Jul 2013 #7

You fired up the issue of relationships in post two, and now you're crabbing that I expounded on it? MADem Jul 2013 #13

oh ffs cali Jul 2013 #18

You're wasting your time. That poster is a top defender of US policies in the LatAm forums n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #21

Do you not grasp at all that US trade policies with these countries in recent years have been MADem Jul 2013 #23

AND GOOD FOR HIM. The Press he RESTRUCTURED was owned by the 1% Catherina Jul 2013 #16

You're serious!!! MADem Jul 2013 #17

Yes indeed I am and bullshit to your bullshit backed up by NYT bullshit Catherina Jul 2013 #20

Whatever--tell the elephant in the room to stand in the corner and try to not poop too much. nt MADem Jul 2013 #22

It's not as if that was necessarily unfounded or a bad idea on Morales' part. dballance Jul 2013 #3

I do believe it and I wish you'd post an OP about it cali Jul 2013 #4

Again, he can do what he wants, but he might not like the aftermath.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #6

yes, because we're the big bad boss.... of everyone. cali Jul 2013 #8

Don't be absurd. MADem Jul 2013 #10

sorry, but the history of the U.S. in South America doesn't suddenly cali Jul 2013 #11

No one is talking about "erasing history" so I don't know why you're even going there. MADem Jul 2013 #14

no, you're just ignoring it entirely. cali Jul 2013 #19

No point in having any relationship at all, then--because, according to you, USA must be perpetually MADem Jul 2013 #24

Closing the embassy is something Morales has been itching to so. He does not trust Cleita Jul 2013 #9

Why doesn't he just do it? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #15

He probably will unless Kerry smooths this over. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #27

He has more to worry about from his own fractured population than from any outside actors. nt MADem Jul 2013 #25

The outsiders are who back up his domestic enemies. We have been doing it for some time. Cleita Jul 2013 #26

And we also had a history of slavery. MADem Jul 2013 #29

This is not the past. We have a policy of doing this to the present day when we Cleita Jul 2013 #30

There's not much of a downside. The Ambassador was kicked out, as was USAID. Several years bike man Jul 2013 #12

I think we have stopped sending them aid. I read something about it yesterday Cleita Jul 2013 #28

It would be great to have a link, because according to this we appropriated almost $29m in 2012. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #31

It was wikipedia. You need a link for that? Cleita Jul 2013 #32

You didn't say where you got your "information" in the other post. Why request aid if you don't.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #33

I take it you've never been to Bolivia. It's hardly a hell hole. It's just a poor Cleita Jul 2013 #36

My statement stands. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #39

lol $22 million cali Jul 2013 #34

Yes, Morales is so going to miss that change we are throwing at him. Cleita Jul 2013 #37

And that $22 million can feed the kids we're kicking off of SNAP, and maybe keep a couple of.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #38

Suspend ALL foreign aid to all of them, everywhere, every bit of it. Even the bike man Jul 2013 #42

Suspend foreign aid not just to Bolivia, but everyone, all of them, everywhere. The bike man Jul 2013 #40

I'm all for keeping our aid domestic. Foreign aid is just bribery anyway. Cleita Jul 2013 #41

Morales is doing what many Latin American leaders do> spout off against the US as often as possible KittyWampus Jul 2013 #35