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marions ghost

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3. Agree completely --we are treated like children by the govt
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jul 2013

Gene also says:

"Also untrue is President Obama’s assertion that the NSA surveillance programs are “transparent.” They are, in fact, completely opaque — or were, until Snowden started leaking the agency’s secrets.

By what authority does the government collect data on our private communications? We don’t know. More accurately, we’re not permitted to know.

A provision of the Patriot Act allows the FBI to seek warrants “requiring the production of any tangible things (including books, records, papers, documents and other items) for an investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities.”

Seizing records that pertain to an investigation is not the same thing as compiling a comprehensive log of billions of domestic phone calls. How has the law been stretched — I mean, interpreted — to accommodate the NSA’s wish to compile a record of our contacts, associations and movements? The government refuses to tell us."

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du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #1
I agree, but I don't agree that "we can handle the truth"... tridim Jul 2013 #2
well, SOME of us can handle the truth. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #13
Correction: We'd be outraged if we knew the truth. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #26
Agree completely --we are treated like children by the govt marions ghost Jul 2013 #3
That was a good read...and hopefully other's will pick up on what he says.. KoKo Jul 2013 #7
Most people ARE children skepticscott Jul 2013 #8
Eugene, ''handling the truth......'' DeSwiss Jul 2013 #4
ummm, no...not really, if the "government' told the truth and it wasn't as bad as the MSM said it wa uponit7771 Jul 2013 #5
??? heaven05 Jul 2013 #6
Thanks for the post, kpete, and thank you Mr. Robinson! flpoljunkie Jul 2013 #9
What the NSA really thinks about FISA and warrants within the US The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10
Eugene is wrong. kentuck Jul 2013 #11
The issue isn't really whether we can handle the truth. It's whether the NSA can. winter is coming Jul 2013 #12
That's it. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #15
Google Peterloo AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #19
Thanks for the suggestion. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #21
I find this statement very incomplete. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14
"The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed." Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #16
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #17
Try lying to your spouse and see how long it takes to regain trust. Does the gov think... L0oniX Jul 2013 #18
Protections for Free Speech should only encompass the truth dickthegrouch Jul 2013 #20
This is the time to stop lying felix_numinous Jul 2013 #22
Actually looking over some of the reactionary posts here Rex Jul 2013 #23
The latest polls show that 70% of Americans don't care about this issue. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #24
If that was true you'd post a link but it's not so you don't. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #25
Tsk. Racist. tblue Jul 2013 #27
He approves of Pole-dancing. Kurovski Jul 2013 #28
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #29
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