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126. We haven't been a true democracy for a long . . .

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:11 AM

Jul 2013

. . . I take that back. We've never been a true democracy, a republic with representation for the landed gentry(white males only at the beginning) maybe, but never a democracy. That's just the propaganda we've all come to accept.

Now Washington is more political theater than a functioning legislative body. It's in stalemate and can't get anything done.

The spying by the NSA has been going on since when, the Patriot Act? The technology genie makes it possible and you can't really put the genie back in the bottle.

New legislation has to be crafted to limit what information can be gathered and stored but, like I said, the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going to stop. Hell, even corporations are storing info on everyone that orders something online. Next time you order something see if ads for similar products don't start popping up on your computer screen.

Congress actually legalized this crap back in the Bush admin so it's up to Congress to try to minimize it. That is if they can actually get something passed through both the House and Senate.

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What Kind Of Coward Is Edward Snowden? [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

The correct answer is, "Who gives a shit?" Deep13 Jul 2013 #1

Here something about dead horses. And beating. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #2

Yeah, my bad for not starting a "thanks for Edward Snowden" thread. ProSense Jul 2013 #3

no. you just a trifle odd for posting over 100 Snowden threads. cali Jul 2013 #11

Please ProSense Jul 2013 #13

bwahahaha. that all you got? cali Jul 2013 #16

LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #17

To quote another poster upthread Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #102

You have to keep the two minute hate going against enemies of the state. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #104

Of course Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #107

When it comes to spying by the state on its citizens, in a Democracy no less, I hope R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #108

Give the sanctimony a rest Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #109

It's not sanctimony. Nice try. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #110

Uhuh Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #112

Good for you. I'm glad you can put that on the table and be comfortable with it. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #114

Yeah, you'll do just fine here. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #115

I'm here all weeks folks. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #116

Meh Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #117

Oh, good for you. A comeback. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #119

? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #120

Sure thing. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #122

We haven't been a true democracy for a long . . . brush Jul 2013 #126

"That's just the propaganda we've all come to accept." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #133

Do you really think that the rich and corporations aren't running things, brush Jul 2013 #137

Hush now. Just sit back and don't worry about it. It's too complicated. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #139

I thought you could decern brush Jul 2013 #166

Whaaaaaaaaaa! Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #4

So sorry, ProSense Jul 2013 #6

Uh, that's "Dear Leader" CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #72

LOL! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #99

what kind of coward blows up wedding parties by drone attack? nt msongs Jul 2013 #5

Tough one: ProSense Jul 2013 #7

The kind that sits behind a keyboard in the AC Rex Jul 2013 #8

The people who called him another MLK need to be thoroughly ashamed treestar Jul 2013 #9

People called him MLK? Rex Jul 2013 #25

Yup. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #47

"I am not here to hide from justice." randome Jul 2013 #10

LOL! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #100

Probably the same kind that sits at home day after day SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #12

Yup, ProSense Jul 2013 #15

If today was July 4th, 2004, Bush was President, and Snowden had done exactly the same things, Zorra Jul 2013 #14

^^^This!^^^ R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #103

It's ProSense day! Just like the movie Groundhog day. cali Jul 2013 #18

Stop ProSense Jul 2013 #19

lol. you implying anyone else is obsessed? that's just wonderfully cali Jul 2013 #22

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #23

lol. funnier and funnier. more on more desperation from you. cali Jul 2013 #24

What ProSense Jul 2013 #27

The same kind as Emile Zola and Albert Einstein. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #20

Snowden ProSense Jul 2013 #21

Was MLK held for trial in a court that disallowed evidence because of "National Security"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #29

Snowden broke the law and fled the country. He was not being persecuted. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #31

So, he should come back and face a court that will withhold evidence because of Natiobal Security? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #33

Yes, he should face the consequences. ProSense Jul 2013 #41

Heroes don't hide Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #49

oh, c'mon pro fans. can't you get enough recs to send this off to the greatest? cali Jul 2013 #26

Thanks ProSense Jul 2013 #28

one that exists only in the *interesting* confines of your mind. cali Jul 2013 #30

Seriously, ProSense Jul 2013 #32

Why don't you post something ontopic. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #34

You seldom see many recs for her 200 posts a day. Most dups of her other posts. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #35

Another rerun. nt Pholus Jul 2013 #36

Bwahaha. 279 recs and counting for a Daily Paul special ucrdem Jul 2013 #37

Oh my God. I was wondering if that's where that came from Number23 Jul 2013 #66

Uh, "mispelled"? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #94

I'm sure your post was pithy and clear as a bell in your head Number23 Jul 2013 #96

Not accounting Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #105

Oh girl, yes! I always check the recs when some of these laughable posts shoot up Number23 Jul 2013 #124

Less of a coward than you n2doc Jul 2013 #38

If that's ProSense Jul 2013 #42

Nice personal attack. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #59

Just following the example set by the OP n2doc Jul 2013 #63

Don't blame me for your personal attacks. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #64

No, I would never do that n2doc Jul 2013 #67

No, you're projecting. ProSense Jul 2013 #73

From the "Community Standards' section of 'About DU': Scurrilous Jul 2013 #70

You're so flustered you're forgetting to BOLD your blue links leftstreet Jul 2013 #39

Hmmm ProSense Jul 2013 #43

+1000 darkangel218 Jul 2013 #56

. ProSense Jul 2013 #62

Bwahahahaha! thats all you got?! I cant even watch Jurassic Park anymore without lmao darkangel218 Jul 2013 #74

Yup, and it's hilarious. ProSense Jul 2013 #75

You don't like Edward Snowden..we get it! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #40

Wow, ProSense Jul 2013 #44

I think you have mental issues. Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #45

Says the person who ProSense Jul 2013 #48

I don't really think that observing that the rest of the world is angry with us qualifies as DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #81

Was that ProSense Jul 2013 #83

Help! ProSense has fallen, and she can't get up! DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #84

You know ProSense Jul 2013 #87

It wasn't my best. Looks like you're still on the ground though. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #89

Your Post Was Alerted. Jury voted 3-3 to let it stand. nt Poll_Blind Jul 2013 #55

Writing these anonymous responses Ricochet21 Jul 2013 #46

A better question is "Who's bankrolling Snowden?" Cheap_Trick Jul 2013 #50

He's no coward itsrobert Jul 2013 #51

Opinions vary. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #128

Snowden's the kind of coward who runs far away from Cha Jul 2013 #52

Criticizing Snowden ProSense Jul 2013 #53

enough is enough. You spam the board too much. I'm using my ignore button. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #54

I weep! ProSense Jul 2013 #57

Snowden didn't take a seat at the lunch counter and wait for the police to arrest him Major Nikon Jul 2013 #58

Another pitiful attempt at character assassination... 99Forever Jul 2013 #60

Remember ProSense Jul 2013 #61

Can you disidoro01 Jul 2013 #65

Your comment is bizarre, and ProSense Jul 2013 #68

Explain disidoro01 Jul 2013 #69

No, you're brilliant and not a "troll." ProSense Jul 2013 #71

It bugs that one that someone with... 99Forever Jul 2013 #78

It "bugs" you that I criticize Snowden. ProSense Jul 2013 #79

I worry about people who show... 99Forever Jul 2013 #80

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #86

By that logic, all soldiers are cowards. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #76

Are you saying MLK's logic is flawed, or ProSense Jul 2013 #77

What MLK is saying in that quote is different than how you are using the quote. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #82

So ProSense Jul 2013 #85

Soldiers who participate in wars are breaking the laws of the country they invade. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #88

Did Snowden "invade" this country? ProSense Jul 2013 #90

Hmmm... ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #93

Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #95

I can't believe there are people who still take you seriously on this site. boilerbabe Jul 2013 #91

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #92

We could ask the same of you PS. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #106

Individual data requires a warrant. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #111

Bless your soul CakeGrrl. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #113

And I could "ask the same of you" ProSense Jul 2013 #118

You seem to be all over yourself here. The question was fairly simple. Fairly simple. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #121

Somehow ProSense Jul 2013 #123

No. Answer the question. What are you afraid of? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #131

I have no answer that will please you. You got me. Live happy knowing that. ProSense Jul 2013 #132

"I have no answer that will please you. You got me." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #134

No ProSense Jul 2013 #135

I don't click on vanity links, PS. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #136

Of course ProSense Jul 2013 #138

Will this be the fourth time that you sidestep this simple question? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #140

Yes. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #141

I'm glad that you could admit the sidestep. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #142

You're just too brilliant. You got me. ProSense Jul 2013 #143

"You're just too brilliant. You got me. Your life must be complete." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #144

Wow, ProSense Jul 2013 #145

"Your intelligence and wisdom become more clear with every post!" R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #146

Sigh ProSense Jul 2013 #147

How about this jewel? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #148

Brilliant! ProSense Jul 2013 #149

You can take the fifth any time you like, PS. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #150

You outsmarted me again. ProSense Jul 2013 #152

144 R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2013 #153

441 ProSense Jul 2013 #154

. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #157

. ProSense Jul 2013 #158

ProSense: "Spying on Americans was, is and will still be illegal." woo me with science Jul 2013 #167

Can't quit ProSense Jul 2013 #168

The kind of coward you could only hope to be - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #97

I don't like being trapped in Russian airports. ProSense Jul 2013 #98

or what kind of dumb ass is snowden? madrchsod Jul 2013 #101

So who is funding his evasion of the U.S. authorities? bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #127

***BINGO*** backscatter712 Jul 2013 #129

Too bad Snowden can't use that to get asylum. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #130

lol Th1onein Jul 2013 #155

Your objective was right. But every time I see Snowden's name in a post of story bluestate10 Jul 2013 #151

You shouldn't be puking because you think Snowden is a coward. Th1onein Jul 2013 #156

Do you ProSense Jul 2013 #159

It is an outlandish claim that we are now torturing people? Are you KIDDING me? Th1onein Jul 2013 #160

Link? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #161

You know, I've read your little treatise on what's going on here. It's sad, Prosense. Th1onein Jul 2013 #162

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #163

You're not in for any surprises then, are you? Th1onein Jul 2013 #164

Uh, ProSense Jul 2013 #165