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18. IIRC Civitas then pulled most information about its own staff from the website

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METADATA HYPERBOLE? Moral Mondays protestor shaming site by NC-GOP operative (govt help?) [View all] nashville_brook Jul 2013 OP

Hey, blacklists are the new black! DirkGently Jul 2013 #1

they're completely harmless as long as you are. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #2

Right. Just don't sign the wrong petition, or anything. DirkGently Jul 2013 #4

and to be clear...they're looking for anything that can be used as a cudgel. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #9

It was used against my next-door-neighbor RainDog Jul 2013 #15

they say that 'paranoia' was all the intellectual style of the 70s nashville_brook Jul 2013 #31

Not mention it's 1/4 of the voters in the entire state. DirkGently Jul 2013 #19

once they have the information, they just release it and wait for the crazies to act on it nashville_brook Jul 2013 #45

It's exactly the kind of information -- pictures, employment -- malicious people seek. DirkGently Jul 2013 #46

yes, we see them here with their cameras all the time :) nashville_brook Jul 2013 #47

They've been known to say, pick through people's trash for DirkGently Jul 2013 #53

now they can pick through your trash from the comfort of their parents' basement. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #62

Of course, dgibby Jul 2013 #29

from where we stand now, a GOP (zombie) apocalypse wouldn't seem unexpected nashville_brook Jul 2013 #34

to go with their blackshirts! n/t RainDog Jul 2013 #8

and jack boots to finish the look nashville_brook Jul 2013 #32

Nothing to see here folks, just move along. Uncle Joe Jul 2013 #3

:) nashville_brook Jul 2013 #27

Holy crap. For PROTESTING? magellan Jul 2013 #5

And that's just how public information can be collated & used. DirkGently Jul 2013 #6

Yes. But we're libertarians to point that out. nt Pholus Jul 2013 #58

lately i've been told by folks that they feel conservatives want people to fight nashville_brook Jul 2013 #7

It only took one incident with a rwer to convince me they'd go that far magellan Jul 2013 #12

it doesn't even have to be a protest. public testimony, letters to the editor, talking to reporters. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #20

Yes, it can be used in many ways magellan Jul 2013 #33

i fear for our country too...but in a one state at a time kinda way nashville_brook Jul 2013 #37

I suspect this fear of citizen retribution explains dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #76

And think what would happen to a would-be whistleblower who reported corruption JDPriestly Jul 2013 #66

Well, if it were my member of Congress, Alan Grayson magellan Jul 2013 #67

What I meant was that a whistleblower could be discovered by a check of his/her metadata. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #69

Sorry, yes, you're right magellan Jul 2013 #71

An open letter to Civitas from a protester / Law professor DirkGently Jul 2013 #10

"noting everyone whose driver's license address doesn't match their voter registration address" nashville_brook Jul 2013 #48

Wear that website like a badge of honor. mick063 Jul 2013 #11

The fact they'd try to shame them is really enough. DirkGently Jul 2013 #13

There is a similar circumstance, I am opposed to. mick063 Jul 2013 #16

how about sex offenders? nashville_brook Jul 2013 #50

Sex offenders are convicted criminals mick063 Jul 2013 #55

perhaps the greater good has to do with safety? nashville_brook Jul 2013 #63

I am certainly in agreement with you mick063 Jul 2013 #64

i'm not disagreeing -- the thing about sex offender registries is a big issue nashville_brook Jul 2013 #75

All it takes is a call to an employer stating Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #57

makes you wonder what the equal and opposite data-dump reprisal might be nashville_brook Jul 2013 #14

Civitas apparently fears even having their names known. DirkGently Jul 2013 #17

IIRC Civitas then pulled most information about its own staff from the website struggle4progress Jul 2013 #18

they sure did...b/c you know, it's not safe to have that information out there. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #36

Yep, this is a BIG problem with the NSA story..... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #21

I think it makes them targets. For nuts and general political malice. DirkGently Jul 2013 #23

Not that I necessarily disagree, but... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #25

i've quit jobs b/c of my politics...it was a luxury to do so nashville_brook Jul 2013 #35

nonphysical money's laundered, why not actual data? nt MisterP Jul 2013 #28

EXACTLY. It's capitalism, so it's inevitable that it WILL... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #30

not sure what laundering data would look like... nashville_brook Jul 2013 #61

this incident was exactly what I had in mind--government data given to private contractors MisterP Jul 2013 #87

I live in Charlotte, NC, headquarters of Bank of America. octoberlib Jul 2013 #22

It was BOA to whom HBGary was pitching its "destroy Glen Greenwald" DirkGently Jul 2013 #24

I remember reading about that. It's certainly not good for democracy . nt octoberlib Jul 2013 #26

the other HBGary conspirator was the Chamber of Commerce, who'd LURVE for activists to be silenced. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #44

Gee. No wonder Cass Sunstein wants to shut down discussion of government conspiracies. Octafish Jul 2013 #38

i'd forgotten about that whole episode...what a turd bucket. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #39

He's a busy guy, now that he's back in the pirate sector... Octafish Jul 2013 #40

endorsed by Ted Olson, Ken Starr and Eugene Scalia. yihesssh. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #42

"Pirate sector" Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #70

Mmmm. Good thing THAT was never put into practice. Haha. DirkGently Jul 2013 #43

***pseudo-�independent� advocates to �cognitively infiltrate� online groups and websites*** nashville_brook Jul 2013 #49

Because then, you'd see ridiculous contortions of logic. Bad rhetoric. Ad hominem. DirkGently Jul 2013 #51

you might need someone to draw you a map of that. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #52

K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #41

But it's just metadata! As long as it keeps us safe! Pholus Jul 2013 #54

reality has a well-known liberal bias nashville_brook Jul 2013 #59

Let this stuff get entrenched and prepare to BE well-known liberals I guess... Pholus Jul 2013 #60

Wow! nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #56

Funny, I wouldn't figure those protests to be Charlie Daniels's scene. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #65

I would love to protest at my state Capitol, Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #68

Florida has about the same problem with fewer miles nashville_brook Jul 2013 #73

Metadata hyperbole is what this is, alright. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #72

And you're confident all that data stays "anonymized?" DirkGently Jul 2013 #79

I'm certain that most of it does, simply because of the sheer amount collected Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #84

Of course you're defending Civitas; you're pointing out facts. baldguy Jul 2013 #80

'hate fest' is a strawman claim directed at shutting down discussion nashville_brook Jul 2013 #81

Equating the US under Obama with the worst examples of faux democracies baldguy Jul 2013 #89

Funded by scumbag right-winger Art Pope, klook Jul 2013 #74

And now he's NC's "chief budget writer." Hoorah. DirkGently Jul 2013 #77

thanks for the Art Pope info! nashville_brook Jul 2013 #78

Excellent post, thank you marions ghost Jul 2013 #82

I fucking cannot wait for the chance to vote McCrory out. Jamastiene Jul 2013 #83

it's good that the lawlessness, at least, is getting covered...the gerrymandering is another story nashville_brook Jul 2013 #86

That sucks. NealK Jul 2013 #92

I get to cover them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #85

This is why protests need to be felix_numinous Jul 2013 #88

Should be illegal marions ghost Jul 2013 #91

But they won't use the data that way. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #90

great post. Really shows why we need privacy protections. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #93

I wouldn't blame teapartiers. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #94

But this is one little example, in a small state run by republicans... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #95