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193. okay i see Iran. What do u want me to see

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:22 PM

Jul 2013

China Defiant on Iran Oil Purchases

BEIJING - The Chinese government has indicated it has no plans to change its position on oil purchases from Iran, a day after the United States left Beijing off a list of economies that are exempt from U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil imports.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin Tuesday rejected a question about whether China will reduce its oil imports from Iran and said these purchases are necessary.

China needs to import crude oil from Iran, Liu said, because of its economic development, describing it as “a completely legal” matter. China's purchase channels are normal, open and transparent and do not violate United Nations resolutions or harm the interests of any other party, he added.

http://www.voanews.com/content/china-defiant-on-iran-oil-purchases/1206271.html

China buying oil from Iran with yuan

China is buying crude oil from Iran using its currency the yuan, an Iranian diplomat has said.

Oil transactions are usually settled in dollars but US sanctions make it difficult for Iran to accept payments in the US currency.

Iran is using the revenue to buy goods and services from China, Mohammed Reza Fayyad, Iran's ambassador to the United Arab Emirates, confirmed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17988142

China Oil Tanker Seen at Iran Port for First Time Since EU Ban

Exclusive: Indian shipping firms to carry Iran crude despite reduced insurance

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BREAKING: Venezuelan President Maduro WILL GIVE political asylum to Snowden (updated) [View all] Catherina Jul 2013 OP

Now the issue is getting him there. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #1

I'm sure Russia and China will be more than happy to oblige. reformist2 Jul 2013 #166

I think they would be too. If Russia wants to be gone with him I think they would hrmjustin Jul 2013 #167

VZ needs to issue him a safe conduct pass, like Ecuador did to get him out of Hong Kong. MADem Jul 2013 #188

They need to issue ES a passport, that's all he needs to clear Russian xtraxritical Jul 2013 #270

If they were doing it right, they'd need the legislature to vote on it, I would imagine. MADem Jul 2013 #275

I dunno, all I know is the Russian's want a valid travel document. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #289

He went from Hong Kong to Moscow on a travel authorization from Ecuador. MADem Jul 2013 #296

Here, courts decide. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #309

You don't need to find a copy of the actual law--that's well sourced info in and of itself. MADem Jul 2013 #311

Morales was not the only South American leader in Russia last week. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #312

Maduro, yes. MADem Jul 2013 #313

For starters-- pangaia Jul 2013 #265

Wasn't there an issue with Snowden not having traveling papers, passport, etc.? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #316

Maduro Rejects U.S. Extradition Request for Snowden struggle4progress Jul 2013 #2

CBS has this Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #78

Sweet libodem Jul 2013 #238

So now he's got two offers, the other being Nicaragua. Cleita Jul 2013 #3

Cleita.... What if he's already in Venezuela? Just a desperate thought lol. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #4

At this point with all this cloak and dagger stuff, anything could have happened. Cleita Jul 2013 #6

gras nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #25

grace. winter is coming Jul 2013 #58

coup de gras nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #69

It's grace. (Sounds like gras to our ears; "gras" sounds like gra.) winter is coming Jul 2013 #76

you are right arely staircase Jul 2013 #90

Actually, I meant coup d' etat as a riff on the overthrow of a state, but Cleita Jul 2013 #80

i think coup de grace "i mispelled it" makes more sense in the context of your post arely staircase Jul 2013 #88

Gras means fat. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #174

You're right; thanks. winter is coming Jul 2013 #177

Sounds like a diet plan. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #257

I would pay to know how trolled US about Snowden's presence on Morales' plane. Whoever it was they idwiyo Jul 2013 #36

I think a well utilized bug did the job. n/t JimDandy Jul 2013 #84

Hoist by their own petard. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #183

What a mighty wind from a little bug. JimDandy Jul 2013 #211

Petard is Firecracker in French (Canadian) n/t formercia Jul 2013 #254

That's the modern usage. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #262

A petard is a large hook for hanging things, like meat. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #271

petard (n.) Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #272

I'm hoisted. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #291

Jackpine has the correct meaning of the "hoisted on their own petard" term. nt MADem Jul 2013 #304

You mean something along the lines: idwiyo Jul 2013 #194

LOL Wicked JimDandy Jul 2013 #202

Awesome !! warrant46 Jul 2013 #251

Now THAT would be something! Catherina Jul 2013 #128

I mentioned a what if all the confusion was to obfuscate malaise Jul 2013 #112

Oh, yeah, but I wonder if they had the imagination to think of it and then pull it off. Cleita Jul 2013 #116

Never forget Putin was KGB malaise Jul 2013 #119

I would put my money on Putin and FSB. I bet he is having good time laughing his arse off over idwiyo Jul 2013 #150

I think they've already gone after Spain's PM with some corruption accusations, or maybe it was sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #222

The center right is in power there suffragette Jul 2013 #231

Well this is interesting. The little neocon offering Morales coffee, What are his ties to Otto Reich Catherina Jul 2013 #280

Good questions suffragette Jul 2013 #292

Snowden's leaks are exposing the international 1%. Endangering their profits Catherina Jul 2013 #293

So maybe at this summit, there was a meeting in a back room with Putin, Maduro and Cleita Jul 2013 #171

Can't wait to see this comedy in film, perhaps titled "Spies Like Us" ;-) n/t ReRe Jul 2013 #258

"Spies like us" which introduced the world to the beautiful Vanessa Angel 7962 Jul 2013 #318

And he still has a firm grip on security/intelligence services in Mutha Russia. nt MADem Jul 2013 #199

The GHW Bush of Russia malaise Jul 2013 #259

Precisely like the GHWB of Russia--only considerably more ruthless! nt MADem Jul 2013 #277

We shouldn't forget... kentuck Jul 2013 #186

Kentuck, you read my mind and several other peoples too (via pm) Catherina Jul 2013 #200

you guys are so smart..i leave for a few hours and you figure it out..lol, nt. xiamiam Jul 2013 #230

that was my thought as soon as I read about the Bolivian plane issues magical thyme Jul 2013 #267

I just thought of something. What if the calls claiming he was on Morales' plane were a diversion? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #221

Hahaha lol Catherina Jul 2013 #226

maybe that is why obama has been so quiet..nt xiamiam Jul 2013 #232

I think he is being quiet because he doesn't have Snowden and nineteen50 Jul 2013 #301

I'm sorry, I can't resist Catherina Jul 2013 #236

I think he is out of Moscow already. kentuck Jul 2013 #10

Nicaragua too? I managed to miss that one. idwiyo Jul 2013 #17

There's another thread on it somewhere on GD. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #23

Just googled it. Thank you for the tip! idwiyo Jul 2013 #29

Maduro was in Moscow with Morales. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #310

Well, good luck with that railsback Jul 2013 #5

Mebbe. Except America sucks oil without ceasing struggle4progress Jul 2013 #7

No country can rely solely on oil revenues railsback Jul 2013 #20

its fucking venezuela! hahahahaha galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #40

fucktard is kind of an unfortunate term, IMO. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #49

meh, if the shoe fits. nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #51

Not to mention it doesn't even make sense. randome Jul 2013 #55

Contraction of Fucking Retard n/t formercia Jul 2013 #256

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and others do just fine Gman Jul 2013 #91

exactly, Middle Eastern countries seem to get rich selling this oil stuff quinnox Jul 2013 #104

They'd better find someone to fix their refineries, too.... MADem Jul 2013 #205

Is being in debt to China a bad thing? Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #245

lol eShirl Jul 2013 #249

See post 281. nt MADem Jul 2013 #303

good point. think how bad it would be to live in a country so indebted to China. piratefish08 Jul 2013 #250

We have options, they don't. China will not cut off their nose to spite their own face. MADem Jul 2013 #281

Saudi Arabia can no longer depend on oil revenue to handle the growing population railsback Jul 2013 #132

Not so much, now--we've diversified. All that fracking. But we do REFINE their oil. MADem Jul 2013 #198

China is more than happy to buy oil from them. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #8

That oil has to make it out of the Caribbean first. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #13

nobody is going to put sanctions on venezuela over snowden arely staircase Jul 2013 #34

Sanctions = US not buying any more Venezuelan oil Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #83

i don't think either are likely; him making it there or us not buying any more of their oil if he arely staircase Jul 2013 #94

An act of war on the high seas??? Gman Jul 2013 #67

"and live away from the imperial North American persecution" Maduro warrant46 Jul 2013 #252

That would be a blockade which would be tantamount to a war. Do you really think that totodeinhere Jul 2013 #92

I don't think the US will do anything remotely close to such an idea Scootaloo Jul 2013 #219

Can't live on oil alone. railsback Jul 2013 #21

Oil isn't the only resource Venezuela has. It's just one of them. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #27

Venezuela focused on oil exports railsback Jul 2013 #35

Actually they have a successful stock exchange too. Cleita Jul 2013 #48

Trade sanctions and no Pacific Alliance just spells doom railsback Jul 2013 #56

Populism and snowden will not save him flamingdem Jul 2013 #201

Snowden would be a virus railsback Jul 2013 #204

Maybe he just wants to speak with flamingdem Jul 2013 #207

Yeah, maybe Snowden is actually improving U.S. relations with Latin America railsback Jul 2013 #213

You mean like Cuba? Oh that's right Cuba is still around isn't it? N.I.B. Jul 2013 #243

The refineries for that highly viscous oil are on the US Gulf Coast Kolesar Jul 2013 #60

Why you think they are going to refuse to refine it? Cleita Jul 2013 #73

The refineries are owned by oil companies, not by the Venezuelan government Kolesar Jul 2013 #81

We'll see. I doubt if they don't have some back up plans and deals. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Gman Jul 2013 #106

I thought that is what I was saying. They aren't going to throw away profits. Cleita Jul 2013 #113

You did Gman Jul 2013 #123

So China is just buying Venezuelan oil for the heck of it? cali Jul 2013 #103

They own 7/11's, don't they? kentuck Jul 2013 #14

Used to own Citgo. Not sure if they still do. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #26

yes, they do arely staircase Jul 2013 #37

Sort of. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #164

makes sense arely staircase Jul 2013 #165

Totally irrelevant. Remember it was the US that wanted a global economy Gman Jul 2013 #18

So because Venezuela wanted a global economy... randome Jul 2013 #22

I think you may have misread by post Gman Jul 2013 #46

Rule #1 at the DU3, Obama is responsible for everything!! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #53

Sorry. Nothing is Obama's fault. tblue Jul 2013 #191

If it was totally irrelevant railsback Jul 2013 #24

Are you saying Maduro was selling oil? Gman Jul 2013 #44

What's hilarious is thinking a country can rely solely on oil revenues railsback Jul 2013 #65

No, it's not funny at all Gman Jul 2013 #137

Read up on Saudi Arabia railsback Jul 2013 #148

Fine. Let us stop buying oil form them and see the price of gas at the pump shoot up. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #64

Yeah, that's pretty simplistic railsback Jul 2013 #72

Not really. Take away one of our major oil suppliers and see what happens. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #118

We have plenty of other resources for oil railsback Jul 2013 #147

They are not a big part of our oil picture at all, and their contribution gets smaller every year. MADem Jul 2013 #282

We get about 5.9% of our oil from them. That might not sound like much but the way oil markets totodeinhere Jul 2013 #306

We'd get more from Canada if we had the transshipment capability and refining capacity. MADem Jul 2013 #308

You also assume that the oil companies given a choice between Gman Jul 2013 #86

They'll have NO choice with sanctions. See: Iran. railsback Jul 2013 #149

Good luck with that Gman Jul 2013 #162

okay i see Iran. What do u want me to see rpannier Jul 2013 #193

Sanctions cut Iran's oil exports in half. Iraq now exports more. railsback Jul 2013 #203

He'll never make it there. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #9

He can go by boat. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #11

From Moscow? I think you need to find a different map-reading instructor. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #32

Russia has ports. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #38

To reach them, he'd have to leave the transit lounge and formally enter Russia. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #41

I am sorry but I am ignorant on international law on this case. Has he not already entered Russia? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #43

My understanding is that the transit lounge is a legalistic limbo and that he's "not" winter is coming Jul 2013 #50

I am sure they can figure something out thast does not require them to go over US airspace. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #54

In airports there are points where international travelers Gman Jul 2013 #57

Thanks! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #59

Once you clear customs you have formally entered the country, or not Gman Jul 2013 #63

So he is sleeping in the airport then. I should have been paying more attention. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #71

That's what thought for a while until Gman Jul 2013 #77

Russia has already said that if he is transported in an embassy vehicle that vehicle would totodeinhere Jul 2013 #105

Ah. I'd missed that detail. Thanks. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #108

do you have a link for this? allin99 Jul 2013 #241

Here. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #260

Thanks. allin99 Jul 2013 #263

It would really piss you off if he makes it there, wouldn't it quinnox Jul 2013 #28

oh, I wouldn't bet on that, apologist dear. cali Jul 2013 #95

I think he will unless Obama scrambles jets. morningfog Jul 2013 #122

I don't know if what he did was right or wrong but Gman Jul 2013 #12

K&R !!! idwiyo Jul 2013 #15

The plot thickens... quinnox Jul 2013 #16

Getting pert near uppity, ain't they? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #47

exactly, those ungrateful SOBs quinnox Jul 2013 #61

Oh My! mitchtv Jul 2013 #190

I think I was channeling Paula Deen there, for a minute. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #210

Now I am confused. Is the oil Venezuela has truedelphi Jul 2013 #237

K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #19

Why didn't he take Snowden out of Russia when he was there? ProSense Jul 2013 #30

He had to return home and consult with other members of his government first. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #111

We hadn't pissed off all of Latin America at that point. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #126

The White House hadn't forced down the plane of a head of state at that time MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #139

That ProSense Jul 2013 #155

I wonder if a certain Zorra Jul 2013 #31

We were going to meet and hang out at the beaches remember? Catherina Jul 2013 #100

Oh...I'm ready! Zorra Jul 2013 #192

Yes lol! Catherina Jul 2013 #195

Muy cierto, hermana! Zorra Jul 2013 #284

Just let me know when Catherina Jul 2013 #294

K&R magellan Jul 2013 #33

true, but then you would have the "I hate Snowden!" crowd lobbying to engage the Russian plane quinnox Jul 2013 #45

There's direct flights from Moscow to Havana. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #79

good point quinnox Jul 2013 #85

airspace issues? Or did the Morales fiasco smooth all that out? n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #101

Should be clear airspace... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #127

HooptieWagon, I want to know everything lol! When he gets there, if he's there already etc n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #131

LOL, we'll probably learn the news from you! HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #145

UUEE to SVMI is 6162 NM great circle pangaia Jul 2013 #268

Aeroflot flies 5 weekly non-stop flights Moscow to Havana. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #283

I just saw your post. Yes indeed they could. This is awesome n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #154

Mucho awesome! magellan Jul 2013 #168

k and r..i hope he is not in moscow and somehow already in south america xiamiam Jul 2013 #39

Their best bet might be to smuggle him on a cargo ship Warpy Jul 2013 #42

Venezuela gets to host the little snot and gets nothing for it Kolesar Jul 2013 #52

Latin America can survive without the US and its brand of help. n/t magellan Jul 2013 #66

Yep. Since Obama gave SA the middle finger... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #96

The wound was opened when the U.S. told other countries ... allin99 Jul 2013 #82

"See, you know how to take the reservation, but you don't know how to HOLD the reservation..." alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #62

Ok, that brought a belly-laugh. I miss that show. silvershadow Jul 2013 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author Catherina Jul 2013 #68

good. now here's hoping he gets there safely because cali Jul 2013 #70

If they're clever, he's already somewhere in South America. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #98

KICK ASS! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #74

i think its more than just setting an example xiamiam Jul 2013 #89

President of Venezuela yesterday: "Whoever picks a fight with Bolivia, picks a fight with Venezuela" allin99 Jul 2013 #75

Nice! Thanks for sharing that magellan Jul 2013 #160

Bravo! Maybe Venezuela can give him citizenship and a passport like they attempted in Iceland. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #87

I don't think a valid passport will stop the U.S. from trying to nab him en route. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #93

i don't see how they can do that without scrambling jets... allin99 Jul 2013 #107

I don't know. The sledehammer style has landed them in Der Shitstorm as the Germans call it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #109

And there are probably some advisors claiming that the shitstorm couldn't get any worse, winter is coming Jul 2013 #115

Probably the same ones who advised him that it wouldn't occur at all. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #125

I think they will try to intercept him...there are probabely a few CIA agents staying in HipChick Jul 2013 #110

I would think so. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #130

I'm sure the Russians know exactly whos in transit zone... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #133

Are they wearing blond wigs? Will Putin release them after they're arrested? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #144

President Obama already said that they would not try to do that. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #114

Awesome! K&R! LittleBlue Jul 2013 #99

anyone who thought spy thrillers were passe is wrong carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #102

I hope the cowardly, treacherous, racist Snowden is arrested and tried rury Jul 2013 #117

Just when you thought surveillance state lovers couldn't sink any lower. PLONK n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #120

wow, I feel the opposite, and consider him a modern day Paul Revere quinnox Jul 2013 #124

Karma may eventually catch up CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #134

and President Obama has been pushing the chained CPI. So karma going to catch up cali Jul 2013 #146

You seem very, very invested in protecting Snowden from ANY criticism CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #169

you honestly believe that this whole thing is simply a plot to make obama look bad? frylock Jul 2013 #229

It seems to be the new narrative. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #246

I'm with Catherina. *PLONK* backscatter712 Jul 2013 #136

LOL, I love the Star Trek clip there quinnox Jul 2013 #143

lol, now I get the *plonk* reference! magellan Jul 2013 #223

It was originally USENET slang. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #224

Ah. Even more apt. Thanks! n/t magellan Jul 2013 #225

..... cali Jul 2013 #138

Shall we talk prism? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #158

I think the goal for some around here is to supress ANY discussion of PRISM, NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #317

Rery, rury? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #218

A DUzy! kentuck Jul 2013 #220

... sibelian Jul 2013 #255

This is good news MNBrewer Jul 2013 #121

So authoritarian apologists... 99Forever Jul 2013 #129

I'll take "Blowback" for a thousand, Alex! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #142

Just updated the OP with the video (Spanish) n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #135

I hope he makes it. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #140

Good Recursion Jul 2013 #141

Venezuela and Nicaragua nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #151

When he makes it, hes still not in the clear though. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #157

That goes without saying nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #159

I was mistaken for CIA when I was in Venezuela. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #172

Excellent news! woo me with science Jul 2013 #152

Bwah-ha-HAH!1 Let it BE!1 Let it HAPPEN!1 Let it whatEVER!1 UTUSN Jul 2013 #156

Welcome to your LIbertarian Retraining Camp in Caracas Eddie flamingdem Jul 2013 #175

I love that Venezuela is the one stepping up on this ~nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #161

Me too. Shows what a joke this is Snowden despises big government flamingdem Jul 2013 #178

Where do you look to find out what Venezuela is REALLY like? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #239

No, I look at my experience in Cuba, there are many similarities and I experienced flamingdem Jul 2013 #244

No, I have never been to Venezuela 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #279

I was there about 20 yrs ago, before Chavez. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #286

Cuba: traditional 1960's vintage communist state. Venezuela: democratic socialists republic. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #290

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #163

How undignified nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #170

Breaking: White House: no comment on Venezuela's asylum offer Catherina Jul 2013 #173

So much for the "I welcome this conversation" crap. Little Star Jul 2013 #261

the silence is deafening..and shocking actually xiamiam Jul 2013 #285

Good! 20score Jul 2013 #176

lol! Works for me!! See ya, Eddie Number23 Jul 2013 #179

Hasta la vista snowball flamingdem Jul 2013 #182

Good. 840high Jul 2013 #180

Venezuela is a stunningly beautiful country, bvar22 Jul 2013 #181

Yes indeed he is! I love that country Catherina Jul 2013 #184

never been sad to say mitchtv Jul 2013 #206

I haven't visited that region yet Catherina Jul 2013 #227

kind of hung around mitchtv Jul 2013 #273

You were there during exciting times! Catherina Jul 2013 #287

Buenos Aires of course, mitchtv Jul 2013 #288

I'm having flashbacks of the Motorcycle Diaries lol Catherina Jul 2013 #299

The ignorant fantasies from the bigoted, close minded, conservative DUers above... bvar22 Jul 2013 #274

snowden rso Jul 2013 #185

I'm with you hardcover Jul 2013 #240

You both look exactly alike. How perfect is that? Kurovski Jul 2013 #242

Venezuela and Cuba 2 peas in a pod. Minit in cuba taps calls. You want authoritarian? flamingdem Jul 2013 #187

Wait...I THOUGHT THIS WASN'T ABOUT SNOWDEN. Galraedia Jul 2013 #189

I don't think this thread is really about Snowden himself. djean111 Jul 2013 #196

Looks CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #197

Snowden's become a symbol. Embrace it. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #208

"All the bashers can suck my dick!" Is that what passes for discussion on DU now? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #314

Is it about Snowden, the NSA, or the Constitution? kentuck Jul 2013 #215

Well, we TRIED, honey, really, truly, we really, truly did try... but... sibelian Jul 2013 #247

This is about South American nations standing up to the US, imo. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #295

There are times I love what my Goverment does, then they are times I love when other countries Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #209

If true, I guess we'll see how bad the US is. stevenleser Jul 2013 #212

Why the celebration? dbackjon Jul 2013 #214

Still wont faze Snowden's cult following as he hops from one authoritarian country to the next... Galraedia Jul 2013 #234

They could be cheering for the NSA... kentuck Jul 2013 #235

Will Venezuela follow through on Snowden offer? ProSense Jul 2013 #216

Is that fireworks? Rain Mcloud Jul 2013 #217

heads exploding lol n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #228

I was visiting with family and came back and lo and behold! suffragette Jul 2013 #233

Here's to hoping Edward Snowden will soon be able to see his girlfriend! Catherina Jul 2013 #269

I'm hoping the minimum wage gets raised and arbortion rights are protected. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #315

Great thread, Catherina. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #248

good rtracey Jul 2013 #253

I feel the same way. If youre gonna blow the whistle, do it on your own turf 7962 Jul 2013 #319

Awesome news! celticnachos Jul 2013 #264

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #266

That ought to be interesting gopiscrap Jul 2013 #276

No more Hong Kong Eddie, he's moving Progressive dog Jul 2013 #278

K&R! Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #297

K&R will read later.. midnight Jul 2013 #298

awesome news. love it. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #300

Just updated the OP with a link to the immedate extradition request and the extradition treaty Catherina Jul 2013 #302

K/R~~~ LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #305

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