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18. Double jeopardy

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:22 AM

Jul 2013

Not guilty means the end of any sort of prosecution (unless you are a cop in Simi Valley and you can find federal charges that apply).

Almost anything can happen when it goes to the jury. Just ask O.J.

I think the most appropriate conviction is manslaughter (which will carry significant time as well). That is what Dooley was convicted of in a case very similar to this one (in that case it was an African American shooting a European American during a fight). Dooley and Zimmerman are blood brothers as far as I am concerned who did their thinking with their guns. If you can prove that Martin is the one crying for help then it is Murder 2.

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My State of Florida vs Zimmerman Prediction ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 OP

I predict there will be a lot of people unhappy at the verdict... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #1

That is a great prediction. nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #2

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #3

Well stated. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #11

Intelectually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #19

In your shoes JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28

I Agree With You... Racism May Not ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #48

I've noticed that too... Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #59

Gee, I Could Probably Holler Out ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #89

My step-dad works at the Sweet Bay on 41 in Venice... Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #90

THAT Is close. I Can Walk To Casey Key! ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #92

Many blacks that experience racism on a daily basis would disagree with you HipChick Jul 2013 #62

I Don't Disagree WITH You... ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #91

On what are you basing "black race" progress? HipChick Jul 2013 #93

Perhaps It May Not Seem So To Others ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #98

That is what drives me nuts. avebury Jul 2013 #23

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #27

I think that they have proven the points for 2nd Degree avebury Jul 2013 #40

Maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #43

interesting... handmade34 Jul 2013 #56

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #67

Yep, premium Jul 2013 #72

they did get a peek, and you should have seen their faces Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #95

have you watched the prosecutor john guy, from yesterday? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #94

I think those of us that don't fit into the two categories will probably feel like justice davidpdx Jul 2013 #102

Yes, like the Casey Anthony case that preceeded it, truedelphi Jul 2013 #4

in Casey Anthony's case the jury sympathized her with and liked her Lawyer Baez JI7 Jul 2013 #10

Your point is a very valid point. truedelphi Jul 2013 #81

I kind of disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #20

Zimmerman was "playing" cops and robbers. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #76

Your last sentence is perfect. truedelphi Jul 2013 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #53

I agree with your prediction, for the most part. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #5

Double jeopardy exboyfil Jul 2013 #18

You are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #21

I agree. I don't think "knock knock" should do the closing argument. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #68

neither of them are likeable. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #96

Apparently the State of Florida doesn't allow JimDandy Jul 2013 #97

Zimmerman's disregard of Martin's life was based on Martin's race rocktivity Jul 2013 #6

Which evidence... introduced in court... Pelican Jul 2013 #12

You're really invested in this case DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #16

I will admit... Pelican Jul 2013 #17

This is where jury composition really matters ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #22

On a side note... Pelican Jul 2013 #25

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #32

Well, I am white and I don't see Z confronting a stranger. I strongly believe... Little Star Jul 2013 #31

And I as well. I was going to post that above, but I'll just confirm what you said... truth2power Jul 2013 #74

I'm basing it on human nature. rocktivity Jul 2013 #26

I'm thinking manslaughter. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #7

I hope I'm wrong but... Little Star Jul 2013 #34

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And where do you stand on justice for Trayvon & his family?.... Little Star Jul 2013 #54

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You make a lot of assumptions siligut Jul 2013 #80

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The only reason Rev Al had to do that march was because the police didn't do their job... Little Star Jul 2013 #75

I didn't say handmade34 Jul 2013 #77

Bingo Little Star Jul 2013 #73

This thread has people who seem to have signed up to support Zimmerman siligut Jul 2013 #82

Zimmerman walks RGR375 Jul 2013 #70

You can't appeal a not guilty verdict Finnmccool Jul 2013 #8

The defendant can appeal a guilty verdict DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #15

No they didn't RGR375 Jul 2013 #50

No they didn't. GZ. had numerous. lies Finnmccool Jul 2013 #87

i would be ok with manslaughter as long as he is behind bars for a long time JI7 Jul 2013 #9

I'd take it too. Little Star Jul 2013 #35

I agree. I honestly believe Zimmerman to be a threat to society and should be imprisoned. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #36

I fear it is already a nice, tidy, little package. southerncrone Jul 2013 #13

I hope you're right BainsBane Jul 2013 #14

I need to see the closing arguments to make that prediction Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #24

That's a pretty high hurdle, though ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #30

But then he isn't deliberately lying Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #33

Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #41

I suppose that is one possibility Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #42

For 2nd degree murder, depravity of mind must be proved. Kablooie Jul 2013 #29

It is at the moment the act is taken. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #37

I do not agree with your view RGR375 Jul 2013 #45

He shot an unarmed teenage kid for walking on the sidewalk gollygee Jul 2013 #44

In practice, 2nd degree comes down to personal antipathy Nevernose Jul 2013 #51

I wouldn't be surprised if that clown walks no matter how desperately I don't want it to happen. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #38

I think you are Aerows Jul 2013 #39

Not Absolutely Sure If They Are Going ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #46

If they follow the law RGR375 Jul 2013 #55

I Know What You're Saying... ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #47

I have corrected my statement ... Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #49

Maybe it's just me Just Saying Jul 2013 #57

people have a hard time grasping one fact RGR375 Jul 2013 #63

Or he could have shot Just Saying Jul 2013 #64

Most things do RGR375 Jul 2013 #65

Lets be honest Just Saying Jul 2013 #84

It will be most interesting if Z is "over-convicted," for he immediately "over-convicted" Trayvon. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #60

I agree also gopiscrap Jul 2013 #69

Just remember RGR375 Jul 2013 #71

I think he will walk and get away with murder. I just hope and pray it will not southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #78

they already handmade34 Jul 2013 #85

Sadly no amount of money will bring back Trayvon. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #86

Zimmerman has no moeny so sueing him is pointless KinMd Jul 2013 #99

If he writes a book he will have. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Jenoch Jul 2013 #83

Something not discussed DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #101