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avebury

(11,197 posts)
23. That is what drives me nuts.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jul 2013

Martin was not a criminal. He did nothing to deserve what he received. Zimmerman is not the guy you want as the poster boy for defending your turf. He is a narcissistic, pathological liar. He told numerous stories that have more holes then Swiss Chess as well as bold face lies.

1. He told Sean Hannity that he didn't know anything about Stand Your Ground, forget about the fact that he receive and A in a class that spent significant time discussing it.

2. He was a cop wannabee whose police application was denied, wanted to do ride alongs and mannerisms that night were like he was a cop.

3. Trayvon hid behind a bush and jumped out to attach Zimmerman. In all the pictures and videos of the complex, I did not see one bush large enough to hide Martin.

4. Trayvon slammed Zimmerman's head on the concrete numerous times (20-30) while Trayvon put his hands over Zimmerman's mouth, grabbed for the gun, and still held onto the skittles. Yes - Martin was an octopus.

5. Recreations conducted with someone playing Martin on top and someone playing Zimmerman on the bottom show that Martin could not have possibly seen the gun nor be able to reach for the gun. With all the things Zimmerman accused Martin of, Zimmerman could not have reached for the gun as well if it were in the holster. It makes you think that Zimmerman might have already had the gun out of the holster when he approached Martin.

6. Zimmerman didn't know the name of the street. Now from what I have heard, there are only 3 streets in the complex, the street he could not name was the main street, and it contains the name of the complex. Also, in the video walk through, there was a clear shot of the building number.

7. The cell phone records support a lot of what Martin's friend Rachel testified to. Yes she is not the most polished, educated witness but she is a kid. I work with young people not that much older then her and recognize that a lot of what people complain about her are related to generational and cultural issues. On the important points, she was consistent in her testimony.

His friends keep trying to tell the public that this is someone everybody would want watching over their neighborhood. I DO NOT THINK SO. In the Hannity interview he is clear that he would not do anything different and what happened was God's will. Most human beings, if forced to kill someone in self defense (even if fully justified) would still have some reaction to that act. There is no reaction what so ever except satisfaction. It is like there is no one home upstairs. If he had not killed Martin that night I have absolutely no doubt what so ever, that he would have killed someone else at some point in time. He was an accident waiting to happen.

For Zimmerman to be acquitted, the jury must first believe his story. An honest jury will not find him believable. An Zimmerman does not have to get on the stand because he has told his story over and over in the numerous interviews that his narcissistic behavior insisted upon.

Edit to add - A rational person, if found in the position of Zimmerman that night, would have known to shut their mouth and get an attorney before talking to the police. This is a guy that you could not shut up. He wanted to be perceived as a hero.

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I predict there will be a lot of people unhappy at the verdict... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #1
That is a great prediction. nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #2
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #3
Well stated. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #11
Intelectually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #19
In your shoes JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28
I Agree With You... Racism May Not ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #48
I've noticed that too... Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #59
Gee, I Could Probably Holler Out ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #89
My step-dad works at the Sweet Bay on 41 in Venice... Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #90
THAT Is close. I Can Walk To Casey Key! ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #92
Many blacks that experience racism on a daily basis would disagree with you HipChick Jul 2013 #62
I Don't Disagree WITH You... ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #91
On what are you basing "black race" progress? HipChick Jul 2013 #93
Perhaps It May Not Seem So To Others ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #98
That is what drives me nuts. avebury Jul 2013 #23
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #27
I think that they have proven the points for 2nd Degree avebury Jul 2013 #40
Maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #43
interesting... handmade34 Jul 2013 #56
True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #67
Yep, premium Jul 2013 #72
they did get a peek, and you should have seen their faces Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #95
have you watched the prosecutor john guy, from yesterday? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #94
I think those of us that don't fit into the two categories will probably feel like justice davidpdx Jul 2013 #102
Yes, like the Casey Anthony case that preceeded it, truedelphi Jul 2013 #4
in Casey Anthony's case the jury sympathized her with and liked her Lawyer Baez JI7 Jul 2013 #10
Your point is a very valid point. truedelphi Jul 2013 #81
I kind of disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #20
Zimmerman was "playing" cops and robbers. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #76
Your last sentence is perfect. truedelphi Jul 2013 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #53
I agree with your prediction, for the most part. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #5
Double jeopardy exboyfil Jul 2013 #18
You are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #21
I agree. I don't think "knock knock" should do the closing argument. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #68
neither of them are likeable. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #96
Apparently the State of Florida doesn't allow JimDandy Jul 2013 #97
Zimmerman's disregard of Martin's life was based on Martin's race rocktivity Jul 2013 #6
Which evidence... introduced in court... Pelican Jul 2013 #12
You're really invested in this case DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #16
I will admit... Pelican Jul 2013 #17
This is where jury composition really matters ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #22
On a side note... Pelican Jul 2013 #25
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #32
Well, I am white and I don't see Z confronting a stranger. I strongly believe... Little Star Jul 2013 #31
And I as well. I was going to post that above, but I'll just confirm what you said... truth2power Jul 2013 #74
I'm basing it on human nature. rocktivity Jul 2013 #26
I'm thinking manslaughter. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #7
I hope I'm wrong but... Little Star Jul 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #52
And where do you stand on justice for Trayvon & his family?.... Little Star Jul 2013 #54
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #58
You make a lot of assumptions siligut Jul 2013 #80
... handmade34 Jul 2013 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #66
The only reason Rev Al had to do that march was because the police didn't do their job... Little Star Jul 2013 #75
I didn't say handmade34 Jul 2013 #77
Bingo Little Star Jul 2013 #73
This thread has people who seem to have signed up to support Zimmerman siligut Jul 2013 #82
Zimmerman walks RGR375 Jul 2013 #70
You can't appeal a not guilty verdict Finnmccool Jul 2013 #8
The defendant can appeal a guilty verdict DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #15
No they didn't RGR375 Jul 2013 #50
No they didn't. GZ. had numerous. lies Finnmccool Jul 2013 #87
i would be ok with manslaughter as long as he is behind bars for a long time JI7 Jul 2013 #9
I'd take it too. Little Star Jul 2013 #35
I agree. I honestly believe Zimmerman to be a threat to society and should be imprisoned. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #36
I fear it is already a nice, tidy, little package. southerncrone Jul 2013 #13
I hope you're right BainsBane Jul 2013 #14
I need to see the closing arguments to make that prediction Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #24
That's a pretty high hurdle, though ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #30
But then he isn't deliberately lying Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #33
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #41
I suppose that is one possibility Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #42
For 2nd degree murder, depravity of mind must be proved. Kablooie Jul 2013 #29
It is at the moment the act is taken. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #37
I do not agree with your view RGR375 Jul 2013 #45
He shot an unarmed teenage kid for walking on the sidewalk gollygee Jul 2013 #44
In practice, 2nd degree comes down to personal antipathy Nevernose Jul 2013 #51
I wouldn't be surprised if that clown walks no matter how desperately I don't want it to happen. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #38
I think you are Aerows Jul 2013 #39
Not Absolutely Sure If They Are Going ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #46
If they follow the law RGR375 Jul 2013 #55
I Know What You're Saying... ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #88
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #47
I have corrected my statement ... Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #49
Maybe it's just me Just Saying Jul 2013 #57
people have a hard time grasping one fact RGR375 Jul 2013 #63
Or he could have shot Just Saying Jul 2013 #64
Most things do RGR375 Jul 2013 #65
Lets be honest Just Saying Jul 2013 #84
It will be most interesting if Z is "over-convicted," for he immediately "over-convicted" Trayvon. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #60
I agree also gopiscrap Jul 2013 #69
Just remember RGR375 Jul 2013 #71
I think he will walk and get away with murder. I just hope and pray it will not southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #78
they already handmade34 Jul 2013 #85
Sadly no amount of money will bring back Trayvon. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #86
Zimmerman has no moeny so sueing him is pointless KinMd Jul 2013 #99
If he writes a book he will have. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Jenoch Jul 2013 #83
Something not discussed DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #101
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