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magellan

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49. I don't use Verizon

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:57 AM

Jul 2013

So maybe you'd be so kind as to show me where in its Privacy Policy it says it's going to hand over all of a customer's metadata (and more) to the government.

https://www22.verizon.com/about/privacy/

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Whistleblower Binney says the NSA has dossiers on nearly every US citizen [View all] dkf Jul 2013 OP

thank god! I forgot my old girlfriend's number. I can ask them Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #1

They may know how to accumulate and organize but they haven't perfected the pre-crime part of it. dkf Jul 2013 #2

Minority Report Live? nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #15

Real Time Regional Gateway, or RTRG dkf Jul 2013 #19

And the nail hits the head right there. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #56

The price of potatoes. Ah yes. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #69

It's also the ultimate targeting and counterinsurgency killing machine. leveymg Jul 2013 #82

That may be their ultimate goal, but for now, CrispyQ Jul 2013 #35

Right - and they also still can't figure out colorado_ufo Jul 2013 #16

Saves money when you can't pay the benefits. dkf Jul 2013 #20

Yeah . . . and there's that . . . colorado_ufo Jul 2013 #21

well, just drag your feet on apying veterans claims/benefits and a good number will die off KittyWampus Jul 2013 #72

Hell, these bastards can't figure out if a.warm body Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #22

I think you're on to something! KansDem Jul 2013 #27

OT, but your post and the humorous replies to it reminded me of Jim Croce HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #43

Imagine what prospective employers could do with that info magellan Jul 2013 #3

Scary. I already assume people unhappy about Snowden won't be up for a Federal job. dkf Jul 2013 #4

If it is indexed, it is taken out of context. Downwinder Jul 2013 #13

Not only would some here back employers doing that, some would cheer them on The Straight Story Jul 2013 #24

Binney left the NSA in 2001 Tx4obama Jul 2013 #5

It's ridiculous that you think it's laughable. dkf Jul 2013 #7

Psssst... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #14

And Obama continued the policy of spying on us that Bush started. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #17

Thank god Obama has not continued any of the illegal and unconstutional things Bush did! dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #30

As he explains in his New Yorker profile by Mayer, he continues to talk to active NSA employees leveymg Jul 2013 #83

I was trying to tell someone this earlier VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6

Yet google only gets it if you are using google. dkf Jul 2013 #8

Not just the govt VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #9

It isn't just internet activity magellan Jul 2013 #10

??? The private contractors? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #11

What about them? n/t magellan Jul 2013 #12

trying to understand your point with that post. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31

You said the internet isn't private magellan Jul 2013 #32

they dont have to "hoover". VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #33

Then the FISA court order telling Verizon to hand over all its metadata to the NSA magellan Jul 2013 #38

That's metadata....thats not actually listening in is it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #39

Yes, it's metadata -- that the NSA is hoovering up. magellan Jul 2013 #41

they are storing the queries Of Verizon's data... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #42

Yes, I know. The telcos kind of need that info to bill their customers. magellan Jul 2013 #48

and that is thusfar not illegal. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #50

No, Verizon isn't storing all content DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #60

As a matter of fact.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #44

Um, I do read the contracts I sign magellan Jul 2013 #45

Oh YES it does... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #46

The User Agreements you are signing...... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #47

I don't use Verizon magellan Jul 2013 #49

Where does it say they are NOT doing it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #51

Cute. magellan Jul 2013 #55

Not if the Govt gives them a warrant for it.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #57

A warrant that covers every customer of every Telco in the country magellan Jul 2013 #62

then you have a problem with the court VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #63

I know the truth, thank you. magellan Jul 2013 #65

no not defending.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #66

Oh, is that your point? magellan Jul 2013 #73

the technology exists.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #75

Oh really... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #52

Still not seeing where it says they'll be handing all my metadata over to the gov't. n/t magellan Jul 2013 #54

It says they can pretty much do whatever they want with it.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #58

here you go part II VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #61

That does NOT mention the government magellan Jul 2013 #64

Doesn't mention ANYONE specifically does it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #67

Where passing people's personal data to the US Government is concerned, it should magellan Jul 2013 #71

I am not OK with business's doing it. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #74

I consider the NSA to be more nefarious magellan Jul 2013 #76

So you think there is nothing more nefarious than the NSA???? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #77

More nefarious than CORPORATIONS having that data magellan Jul 2013 #78

You do understand that there are other spying organizations in the world right? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #79

... magellan Jul 2013 #80

I wonder what they say about me? I became an expat in 2008. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #18

"It's not about being paranoid:" That qualifier is creeping into more discussions. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #23

Then they can add this to mine hobbit709 Jul 2013 #25

Woohoo! Maat Jul 2013 #26

"Oh yeah? Well don't get so distressed. Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?" nt raouldukelives Jul 2013 #28

I doubt that. nt Kahuna Jul 2013 #29

k and r nashville_brook Jul 2013 #34

So exciting...I wonder what mine says! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #36

Sure Savannahmann Jul 2013 #37

ding ding ding Savannahmann gets it! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #40

Well, if that's the case... pipi_k Jul 2013 #53

Binney last worked for the NSA in 2001. randome Jul 2013 #59

I'm not surprised to see you post a characterization of DUers in place of Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #84

Great. A group primarily comprised of militaristic RW authoritarians are collecting our information, Zorra Jul 2013 #68

It's a freaking gold rush into data mining & surveillance. The amount of taxpayer money going to KittyWampus Jul 2013 #70

"All databases will eventually be used for unintended purposes." DirkGently Jul 2013 #81

IBM helped organize eh, paperwork for the Holcaust. Octafish Jul 2013 #85

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