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pipi_k

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53. Well, if that's the case...

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:01 AM

Jul 2013

then I would imagine that pretty much all of us are screwed.

Depending, of course, on whether "six degrees of separation" is also true.

We could all be potential terrorists or rabble-rousers or whatever other dangerous type of people they'd be after, by virtue of whom we've associated with who has associated with some other "person of interest".

It's like that saying goes stressing the dangers of STDs...you have had sex with the same people your partner has...in a way. And the people those people have had sex with....etc. etc.

Well, some of you who may have something to worry about can rest assured that I am a very boring person.

But some of the people I've known haven't been as unexciting, shall we say.

So we're all suspect.

Sorry about that.

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Whistleblower Binney says the NSA has dossiers on nearly every US citizen [View all] dkf Jul 2013 OP

thank god! I forgot my old girlfriend's number. I can ask them Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #1

They may know how to accumulate and organize but they haven't perfected the pre-crime part of it. dkf Jul 2013 #2

Minority Report Live? nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #15

Real Time Regional Gateway, or RTRG dkf Jul 2013 #19

And the nail hits the head right there. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #56

The price of potatoes. Ah yes. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #69

It's also the ultimate targeting and counterinsurgency killing machine. leveymg Jul 2013 #82

That may be their ultimate goal, but for now, CrispyQ Jul 2013 #35

Right - and they also still can't figure out colorado_ufo Jul 2013 #16

Saves money when you can't pay the benefits. dkf Jul 2013 #20

Yeah . . . and there's that . . . colorado_ufo Jul 2013 #21

well, just drag your feet on apying veterans claims/benefits and a good number will die off KittyWampus Jul 2013 #72

Hell, these bastards can't figure out if a.warm body Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #22

I think you're on to something! KansDem Jul 2013 #27

OT, but your post and the humorous replies to it reminded me of Jim Croce HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #43

Imagine what prospective employers could do with that info magellan Jul 2013 #3

Scary. I already assume people unhappy about Snowden won't be up for a Federal job. dkf Jul 2013 #4

If it is indexed, it is taken out of context. Downwinder Jul 2013 #13

Not only would some here back employers doing that, some would cheer them on The Straight Story Jul 2013 #24

Binney left the NSA in 2001 Tx4obama Jul 2013 #5

It's ridiculous that you think it's laughable. dkf Jul 2013 #7

Psssst... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #14

And Obama continued the policy of spying on us that Bush started. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #17

Thank god Obama has not continued any of the illegal and unconstutional things Bush did! dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #30

As he explains in his New Yorker profile by Mayer, he continues to talk to active NSA employees leveymg Jul 2013 #83

I was trying to tell someone this earlier VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6

Yet google only gets it if you are using google. dkf Jul 2013 #8

Not just the govt VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #9

It isn't just internet activity magellan Jul 2013 #10

??? The private contractors? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #11

What about them? n/t magellan Jul 2013 #12

trying to understand your point with that post. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31

You said the internet isn't private magellan Jul 2013 #32

they dont have to "hoover". VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #33

Then the FISA court order telling Verizon to hand over all its metadata to the NSA magellan Jul 2013 #38

That's metadata....thats not actually listening in is it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #39

Yes, it's metadata -- that the NSA is hoovering up. magellan Jul 2013 #41

they are storing the queries Of Verizon's data... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #42

Yes, I know. The telcos kind of need that info to bill their customers. magellan Jul 2013 #48

and that is thusfar not illegal. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #50

No, Verizon isn't storing all content DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #60

As a matter of fact.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #44

Um, I do read the contracts I sign magellan Jul 2013 #45

Oh YES it does... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #46

The User Agreements you are signing...... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #47

I don't use Verizon magellan Jul 2013 #49

Where does it say they are NOT doing it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #51

Cute. magellan Jul 2013 #55

Not if the Govt gives them a warrant for it.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #57

A warrant that covers every customer of every Telco in the country magellan Jul 2013 #62

then you have a problem with the court VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #63

I know the truth, thank you. magellan Jul 2013 #65

no not defending.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #66

Oh, is that your point? magellan Jul 2013 #73

the technology exists.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #75

Oh really... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #52

Still not seeing where it says they'll be handing all my metadata over to the gov't. n/t magellan Jul 2013 #54

It says they can pretty much do whatever they want with it.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #58

here you go part II VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #61

That does NOT mention the government magellan Jul 2013 #64

Doesn't mention ANYONE specifically does it? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #67

Where passing people's personal data to the US Government is concerned, it should magellan Jul 2013 #71

I am not OK with business's doing it. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #74

I consider the NSA to be more nefarious magellan Jul 2013 #76

So you think there is nothing more nefarious than the NSA???? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #77

More nefarious than CORPORATIONS having that data magellan Jul 2013 #78

You do understand that there are other spying organizations in the world right? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #79

... magellan Jul 2013 #80

I wonder what they say about me? I became an expat in 2008. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #18

"It's not about being paranoid:" That qualifier is creeping into more discussions. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #23

Then they can add this to mine hobbit709 Jul 2013 #25

Woohoo! Maat Jul 2013 #26

"Oh yeah? Well don't get so distressed. Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?" nt raouldukelives Jul 2013 #28

I doubt that. nt Kahuna Jul 2013 #29

k and r nashville_brook Jul 2013 #34

So exciting...I wonder what mine says! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #36

Sure Savannahmann Jul 2013 #37

ding ding ding Savannahmann gets it! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #40

Well, if that's the case... pipi_k Jul 2013 #53

Binney last worked for the NSA in 2001. randome Jul 2013 #59

I'm not surprised to see you post a characterization of DUers in place of Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #84

Great. A group primarily comprised of militaristic RW authoritarians are collecting our information, Zorra Jul 2013 #68

It's a freaking gold rush into data mining & surveillance. The amount of taxpayer money going to KittyWampus Jul 2013 #70

"All databases will eventually be used for unintended purposes." DirkGently Jul 2013 #81

IBM helped organize eh, paperwork for the Holcaust. Octafish Jul 2013 #85

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