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In reply to the discussion: Snowden attorney speaks for Rand Paul, Lyndon LaRouche, and the 4th amendment [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)over his pole dancing girlfriend, his decision to attempt to flee persecution, where he fled persecution to, and choosing Greenwald, is now blamed because an attorney who represented people we don't like is representing him?
Have you people actually thought about this stuff before you put it out there, or do you just pull it out of your ass and throw it as hard and fast as you can.
The Constitution says you get the right to an attorney. Sixth Amendment gang. The mere fact that one who will stand up for him, and is arguably pretty good, is a favorite of those groups who want smaller government is almost certain. The ACLU might represent him, but this lawyer made the effort.
There are few instances where intersections of belief are good things. You fight for Civil Liberties, and I argue for Civil Rights. In rare instances we are in agreement on certain specific cases. That doesn't diminish my argument, if anything, it strengthens, and gives it additional depth. There is an old saying, the high road, and the low road. If I get there by the high road, is the destination any less valid because you arrived by the other route?
The ACLU has defended Republicans in their right to free speech, First Amendment. That doesn't mean I reject the ACLU, it means that they stand up for the rights of all. When Libertarians and Liberals are in agreement, then perhaps the defenders of the authoritarian principles are the ones who need to reconsider. My argument is based upon the Bill of Rights, international conventions, and moral governance of the people by the people, and for the people. I don't care if yours is based upon the right of the individual for self determination. If you arrive at the right answer by the wrong road, and we can agree on one single point out of the millions we disagree upon, I'll take it that you are right on just one, and we'll work on you for the remaining points.