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ProSense

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Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:59 PM

Jul 2013

"countries that aggressively violate human rights"

...is justified.

China: ‘Benefit the Masses’ Campaign Surveilling Tibetans
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/06/18/china-benefit-masses-campaign-surveilling-tibetans

China: Renewed Restrictions Send Online Chill
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/01/04/china-renewed-restrictions-send-online-chill

China threatens death penalty for serious polluters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-china-pollution-idUSBRE95I10D20130619

A rare look at China's death row

A death row prisoner in the prison in the city of Wuhan in 2003 gets red nail polish to match outfit. The following series of photos were allegedly taken across two days, and offer a rare look at death row in China, which is believed to by far execute more prisoners annually than any other country.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-202_162-10010534.html

"You mean like countries that run off-shore prisons to hold people without trial, violently suppress protests and keep activists in legal limbo for months or even years on trumped-up charges, and indiscriminately murder children in warzones?"

That's why I mentioned this in the OP: After Iraq and torture, this country likely deserves that. The point wasn't a historical perspective, it was about the current situation. The Bush years, as I said, were despiriting.

ENDING TORTURE = Three Torches

Ordered an end to the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, withdrew
flawed legal analysis used to justify torture and applied the Army Field Manual on interrogations
government wide.
Abolished the CIA secret prisons.
Says that “waterboarding is torture” and “contrary to America’s traditions… contrary to our ideals.”
No reports of extraordinary rendition to torture or other cruelty under his administration.
Failed to hold those responsible for past torture and other cruelty accountable; has blocked
alleged victims of torture from having their day in court.

http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/ALWCandidateReportCard.pdf

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A big "FU" to the United States by other countries? [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Prosense: "Spying on Americans was, is and will still be illegal." woo me with science Jul 2013 #1

Bwahahahaha! HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #3

LOL leftstreet Jul 2013 #5

Hahah, course that was before he got a job posting this stuff Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #8

I'm a "she," and I don't have to acuse others of having a "job posting this stuff" ProSense Jul 2013 #12

All one needs to do is look at your constant posts Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #34

Keep your argument. It doesn't change the fact that you're wrong, and deflecting. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #39

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #43

The "real laugh" is accusing someone of being paid to post to avoid the issue being discussed. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #45

Not at all, look at my other posts, course that would be "deflecting" Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #47

So ProSense Jul 2013 #49

your own posting habits...seem in line with your video posted upthread Sheepshank Jul 2013 #94

Who comes close to the posting you do on the same topic constantly? Name the poster please! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #35

I don't care. You go find them. Apparently, that's an important issue to you. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #41

Somebody counted 128 threads started on same subject. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #107

Give em a prize! ProSense Jul 2013 #108

Yes, a vacation. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #111

OMG!... Busted Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #10

Can't quit ProSense Jul 2013 #11

You are a hypocrite of the highest order Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #18

I know you'd like nothing better than to hijack this thread with personal attacks ProSense Jul 2013 #21

Way to duck the issue once again. n/t Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #23

Ducking the issue I see :) Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #48

Jumping on the bandwagon of someone issuing personal attacks? Sheepshank Jul 2013 #97

PLEASE NOTE jazzimov Jul 2013 #20

PLEASE NOTE woo me with science Jul 2013 #24

In regards to spying on Americans jazzimov Jul 2013 #26

Bwah! woo me with science Jul 2013 #38

Here is a map for you since you think you are clever: KittyWampus Jul 2013 #54

See, Kitty, I would never say "fuck you" to you, woo me with science Jul 2013 #70

Although this post is not permitted by DU rules.... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #109

Why Bush Violated the Fourth Amendment, and Obama Has Not... Galraedia Jul 2013 #50

I see the troops are in! woo me with science Jul 2013 #53

Shouldn't you be trying to construct a better argument? Galraedia Jul 2013 #56

Posting Prosense's own words is relevant here. woo me with science Jul 2013 #58

Yes, my words are relevant because I can stand by them. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #60

Well while you're bringing up something she said 7 years ago, Galraedia Jul 2013 #61

No, no, no. Seven years or not, she stands by it! woo me with science Jul 2013 #65

If you're pretending it isn't happening... Galraedia Jul 2013 #67

Wow. woo me with science Jul 2013 #68

Twisting? You're the one who said: Galraedia Jul 2013 #71

You mean... woo me with science Jul 2013 #72

I shouldn't have to decipher your post. Galraedia Jul 2013 #74

{{{chuckle}}} Thank you soooo much for finding this and posting. Telling, indeed! Purveyor Jul 2013 #120

Why are you linking to another thread of yours? "Concerned" we missed it? WinkyDink Jul 2013 #2

One? She is linking to six threads she posted already. Very common for her. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #31

Because it's ProSense Jul 2013 #33

why are you being willfully ignorant? Cha Jul 2013 #116

Geez, you 'know people love poking this country in the eye'? Are you Sarah Palin? Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #4

Very well reasoned. The downside is great and the upside limited flamingdem Jul 2013 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #7

"countries that aggressively violate human rights" NuclearDem Jul 2013 #9

This ProSense Jul 2013 #19

Sorry Prosense, Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #13

I see my op inspired you to write this nonsense cali Jul 2013 #14

What post Cali? I would like to bump it!!! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #40

Thank you, please ignore all the personal attacks. jazzimov Jul 2013 #15

and no one has focused less on facts than the OP cali Jul 2013 #17

False, but ProSense Jul 2013 #25

Contrary to your personal attack jazzimov Jul 2013 #27

ROFL! woo me with science Jul 2013 #37

I cannot tell if you are being serious or sarcastic. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #42

Ignoring her blatant hypocrisy on this issue I see Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #92

Oh please, if there's one thing Prononsense isn't interested in, Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #22

So, what solution would you offer? jazzimov Jul 2013 #28

So she wants proposed legislation to stop spying Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #89

Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #91

Are youy denying that you have gleefully called for Snowden to be extradited Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #95

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #98

Well okay then Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #101

Damn, ProSense Jul 2013 #103

You're probably not all that hurt Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #105

So ProSense Jul 2013 #30

"disrupt it with personal attacks". Then I suggest you alert it. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #32

Why bother? ProSense Jul 2013 #36

Good grief some people really take your posts personally flamingdem Jul 2013 #44

It's bizarre, isn't it? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #73

I have no doubt you...... Logical Jul 2013 #46

Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #51

Define a personal attack? Attacking your posting strategy and bias is not a personal attack. And... Logical Jul 2013 #55

Oh the ProSense Jul 2013 #57

"I know you'd like nothing better than to hijack this thread with personal attacks".... Logical Jul 2013 #59

I guess ProSense Jul 2013 #63

Posting her own words is an "attack" now. woo me with science Jul 2013 #62

Wow, interesting video. Thanks! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #64

No, it's ProSense Jul 2013 #66

You have nothing. woo me with science Jul 2013 #75

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #77

All you've done is copy the garbage at your link. woo me with science Jul 2013 #78

Fascinating. ProSense Jul 2013 #80

You're not even fucking worth it.. ProSense can handle you and Cha Jul 2013 #117

Ahh, someone needs a nap! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #119

I'm not interested in your idea of credibility Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #90

Guess what ProSense Jul 2013 #93

Laugh all you fucking want Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #96

Um, ProSense Jul 2013 #100

Oh, you misunderstand me... Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #104

Oh ProSense Jul 2013 #106

Yes I am pissed about criticism of Snowden Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #110

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #112

Looks like I'll be "hijacking" more of your threads then Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #113

. ProSense Jul 2013 #114

Thank you. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #29

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #16

A BIG FAT AMEN to this OP gholtron Jul 2013 #52

Thank you. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #69

And another thank you ProSense! Iliyah Jul 2013 #76

Thanks. ProSense Jul 2013 #82

yeah, they always accuse others of what they themselves are Cha Jul 2013 #118

So GG said this... freshwest Jul 2013 #79

Very nice comment. Thanks. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #83

Thanks. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #81

The OP is reaching this point Snowden-wise. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #84

Your posting that says more about you. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #86

China and Russia just didn't seem to care this time. Rex Jul 2013 #85

Like the Sun rising in the East Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #87

I understand ProSense Jul 2013 #88

What is really funny is that the dreaded blue linkie you posted Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #115

Your first sentence made the rest of your post null and void. Apophis Jul 2013 #99

Well, thanks for kicking the thread. ProSense Jul 2013 #102

Of course contempt for stupidty makes a good servant for more stupidty nolabels Jul 2013 #121