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In reply to the discussion: Time for me to say goodbye to DU. Wish you all well It isn't for me anymore /nt [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)74. Wonder if its a Zombie or long time lurker from that website
I finally realize what's going in here. All the poison from that other site made its way here. The hair on fire to the infinite power crew is here trying to take over.
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Time for me to say goodbye to DU. Wish you all well It isn't for me anymore /nt [View all]
still_one
Jul 2013
OP
He or she explained the other day. They think DU has become an Obama hate site
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#3
I don't care about being disagreed with, it's the lack of fact based discussion on the topic that is
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#9
No, on this issue, the differences between the sides and how they operate are stark.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#93
steven i read one of your fact based posts which explained in detail the processed,
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#37
Not just libertarians… there used to be a website where extreme, hate-filled posters would
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#56
Same old story, if you dine with buzzards you can not soar with eagles, eagles will remain here
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#63
Was that the site filled with people who'd been tombstoned here, along with their acolytes,
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#295
Some topics bring out emotion. Like the DOMA did a year ago. Much disagreement. This....
Logical
Jul 2013
#51
And once again, another DUer who thinks this is about Snowden and not the whole paranoia about...
Logical
Jul 2013
#71
I was trying to make a point that you whining about the DU not getting along happens all the damn...
Logical
Jul 2013
#77
Oh please, do you honestly think I am bothered by the numbers around me who disagree?
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#98
Did you not accuse me of not liking being outnumbered? Was I not outnumbered 3-1 there?
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#109
I will say I appreciate you standing up against them in a tough environment. I do not have....
Logical
Jul 2013
#115
I agree. But without Snowden, no one would even be saying we need a discussion. n-t
Logical
Jul 2013
#144
Leslie Cauley brought this to our attention in her USA Today article in 2006
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#151
I suggest that the issue was effectively buried under the BushCo. shitstorm
TheKentuckian
Jul 2013
#364
one can disagree with the potential scope of NSA spying and still think snowden is a douche.
dionysus
Jul 2013
#292
Snowden made it about Snowden when he moved on from talking about US surveillance
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#296
Well, you are one of the exceptions. Most of the emoters that I have seen are advocating
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#201
For the millionth time, it was self-described "moderates" who failed to turn out in 2010.
Marr
Jul 2013
#384
well that's logical thinking (no pun intended), but others here are not so logical. nt
dionysus
Jul 2013
#291
How do you feel about being governed using classified interpretations of laws?
MNBrewer
Jul 2013
#200
Most governments in history have done that and are still doing that. There is some information,
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#204
I don't believe that is what is happening. I think the article I read that claimed that abused
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#205
PM me, please. I am interested in checking out something better. Thanks. n/t
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2013
#42
"I quit learning new things here some time ago" And THAT is the real problem with this place now
Number23
Jul 2013
#150
"DU is not an echo chamber" is only slightly less hilarious than the "DUers are so super informed"
Number23
Jul 2013
#190
When one of every fifth OP seems to be written by one of three DU members who seem
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#210
I can't believe you are a host. Proof DU's system is flawed in the extreme.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#347
When was the last time Skinner posted anything outside of logistics in AtA?
alcibiades_mystery
Jul 2013
#338
I'll miss!! you, but I keep thinking I need to decide too. I would like to find something better.
patrice
Jul 2013
#400
Liberalism and Progressivism are ideologies that need to be grounded in fact and reason
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#125
Maybe if the government put forth a clear, sincere, comprehensive, and acceptable explanation
Zorra
Jul 2013
#159
Sorry, bro, your explanation is unsourced; it does not project, or go deep enough
Zorra
Jul 2013
#194
It's sourced with multiple Appeals court rulings on the subject and the history. And...
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#203
You're wasting your time. The poster's mind is made up. No fact will change that. nt
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#215
It's not about Obama. It's about the seizure of information that can be used as a weapon
Zorra
Jul 2013
#229
I have no idea what point you are making here. I pointed out the facts in my article
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#246
In 30 words or less, can you specifically sum up the critical point you were trying to make?
Zorra
Jul 2013
#255
And they are contradicted by appellate decisions going back to before they were born.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#329
No, it hasn't and that is a false, and disgusting claim. DU is what it always was,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#170
Nope, the details and subtleties of this issue are being missed completely.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#173
I don't care. I rather stay and fight it out with the assholes that rip Obama for every
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#189
True. That is a nasty accusation and lately it's the marching orders statement
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#30
While a 'purist' might draw some people with them, they also repel people away from them
Bodhi BloodWave
Jul 2013
#311
We have to remember that one of the rules/reasons for banning posts is that they
okaawhatever
Jul 2013
#61
I wish you wouldn't, but I understand. Part of DU has become hostile to factual and rational
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#17
Thank you! I posted the other day, those of us on my side are ready to have a reasonable discussion
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#128
A DUer, think it's Backscatter puts people on ignore by responding with "PLONK"
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#242
It means "Have a good life in my iggy list" according to East County Magazine stylebook
Brother Buzz
Jul 2013
#248
+1 and that's NOT "ageism". It's about value added to what DU is, or WAS, i.e. we helped build
patrice
Jul 2013
#401
Certain opinions are banned here. If you don't like that, take it up with Skinner and EarlG
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#84
Nope, I'll keep pointing out how ridiculous and unsupported they are. The difference is, now I know
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#88
I almost missed your talk of a "Democrat President" your slip is showing. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#174
Don't forget your passport and exit visa and avoid Venazuela Airlines.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#39
I don't know, I only suggested that there are sites that like the neo-liberal policies
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#85
Stop putting words in my mouth, by the posters own posts I merely suggested there were more
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#107
Neoliberalism refers to economic policies. That has nothing to do with this.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#90
Surveillance has become big business or are you unaware that Snowden worked for a private firm ?
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#99
I note that poster just accused you of putting words in their mouth. I'm guessing you dont actually
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#111
Milton Friedman school of economics, I know all about his influence on those that felate the 1%
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#388
anyone who finds a discussion forum unpleasant and not to their liking can (and probably should)
quinnox
Jul 2013
#131
Best wishes on any decision. But hopefully you'll stay. There is no other site like DU
think
Jul 2013
#135
I would encourage you to stay instead and put the hair on fire crew on ignore for now.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#142
Hmm. Just read through all this, and am hoping it doesn't become a stampede.
Benton D Struckcheon
Jul 2013
#146
The worst of all time was when they started calling DUers racist that didn't agree with them
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#163
What a bizarre response. But considering that in one thread you are the main one cheering the Pres
Number23
Jul 2013
#195
Why don't you clowns just reopen the Old Elm Tree? That's where you belong.
MjolnirTime
Jul 2013
#358
Don't let the door hit you in the ass my friend. If you give up because other people contest
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#184
Hekate, you've been here long enough to know this is how a farewell thread goes.
Kurovski
Jul 2013
#273
You leave, the increasingly obvious divide and conquer gamers chalk one up. n/t
zeeland
Jul 2013
#209
Yep, as I said, best thing to do is place that crew on ignore and hide terms like NSA, Surveillance
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#234
"COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum"
siligut
Jul 2013
#283
What you actually did with this is show that the DU community has started to recognize that
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#247
I'm discussing with OP (in regular email not DU mail) and trying to convince them not to go.
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#281
It's more of a temporary amputation that is then put in deep freeze with the hopes that one day
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#303
Completely understandable since this site has been overrun with hate and vitriol.
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#331
Its really weird how so many have turned on the President and on Democrats on this Democratic site..
DCBob
Jul 2013
#335
Inability to deal with complexities and compromise is a right wing trait
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#378
Totally agreed, the jury system sucks and we need unrec to balance out the organized recs.
tridim
Jul 2013
#363
This really is where we separate the grown ups from the children, still...
MrMickeysMom
Jul 2013
#339