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120. Additionally, did Z identify himself as a Neighborhood Watch

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:44 PM

Jul 2013

to the 911 Dispatcher? If he did so...this "position" presents a different scenario to the 911 Dispatcher, wherein assuming the caller was not armed and was a reasonable, responsible caller.

This brings me then to the question; Did the Dispatcher know Zimmerman was armed and then leaving his vehicle on foot to chase the "suspect"?

I would enjoy hearing Z's 911 call again so I could piece this together better.

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Should the Zimmerman case make Neighborhood Associations [View all] avebury Jul 2013 OP

It amazes me that Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch, but he didn't know his neighbors! hedgehog Jul 2013 #1

...or even the street names n/t Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #2

It amazes me that Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch Flashmann Jul 2013 #9

why do people keep bringing up rand Paul? backwoodsbob Jul 2013 #110

why do people keep bringing up rand Paul? Flashmann Jul 2013 #113

How often do rogue neighborhood watch people shoot unarmed people walking though penultimate Jul 2013 #3

On ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. avebury Jul 2013 #4

That's exactly the type to worry about: a busybody with "gun courage" and a need to be obeyed arcane1 Jul 2013 #28

Sick. Mojo Electro Jul 2013 #55

People like that should not be given any such power... penultimate Jul 2013 #57

If carrying a gun RGR375 Jul 2013 #76

For me, this has less to do with him carrying a gun and more to do with his actions... penultimate Jul 2013 #81

I don't think he was on watch RGR375 Jul 2013 #90

Property owners can ban guns on their property. Thor_MN Jul 2013 #129

That's an excellent point. FarPoint Jul 2013 #8

And one other important point brush Jul 2013 #19

Even if he did identify himself as such, isn't 'watch' the operative word in neighborhood watch? penultimate Jul 2013 #63

Agreed! Agreed! Agreed! brush Jul 2013 #69

Yeah, I figured I'm just preaching the choir here... penultimate Jul 2013 #78

he just wanted to hunt fugitives so badly Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #103

I have not seen or heard any evidence that Zimmerman ever avebury Jul 2013 #26

Additionally, did Z identify himself as a Neighborhood Watch FarPoint Jul 2013 #120

Transcript and audio is here Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #123

Thanks.... FarPoint Jul 2013 #124

IIRC from testimony Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #125

I heard that too... FarPoint Jul 2013 #126

He sure didn't Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #128

Yup. I would want HappyMe Jul 2013 #14

People carrying guns scare me katmondoo Jul 2013 #5

I'm like you targetpractice Jul 2013 #13

In some states Duckwraps Jul 2013 #20

Just curious and an honest question Duckwraps Jul 2013 #16

Mistakenly perhaps ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #34

That assumption may be wrong. Heck of a lot of wrongful deaths by police anymore. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #47

Do you have statistics on wrongful death at the hands of LEO vs. citizens? n/t Just Saying Jul 2013 #79

No I don't think they are available, Duckwraps Jul 2013 #88

We don't even have the stats and you're already splitting hairs. Just Saying Jul 2013 #107

I'll answer that for you... RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #48

+1 n/t handmade34 Jul 2013 #52

I'm sorry but that is no answer at all. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #60

Name-calling is against community standards. Just Saying Jul 2013 #68

Huh? Duckwraps Jul 2013 #91

I live in Ohio Just Saying Jul 2013 #106

Thanks, it is just the opposite here. Figured Duckwraps Jul 2013 #111

The only people who I've ever seen openly carry Just Saying Jul 2013 #112

I'm not so sure you Duckwraps Jul 2013 #127

I live in Florida and very few stores have no gun signs on their doors. ... spin Jul 2013 #117

Let me explain. ... spin Jul 2013 #114

Do you live in an area that you fear for your life in a grocery store parking lots? Thor_MN Jul 2013 #131

I lived in the same house for 37 years in Tampa. Over that time frame my neighborhood ... spin Jul 2013 #133

Yes, I am calling... RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #75

Thank you for a direct no BS Duckwraps Jul 2013 #89

And all that is, premium Jul 2013 #94

What you said. old guy Jul 2013 #62

I don't think that's always the case.... penultimate Jul 2013 #72

I find your suggestion that anyone who would carry in a supermarket should be sent ... spin Jul 2013 #109

Did you have fun with that? RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #116

Yes actually I did have fun with that post. ... spin Jul 2013 #118

Honest question in reply. What fear drives people to carry? Thor_MN Jul 2013 #132

People illegally carrying guns scare me. ... spin Jul 2013 #119

Zimmerman should teach us that allowing any yahoo to tote a gun in public is moronic. Hoyt Jul 2013 #6

The obvious solution is we need more gun nuts to keep us safe from the gun nuts Major Nikon Jul 2013 #11

Zimm wasn't even an owner! Just a renter ecstatic Jul 2013 #7

Didn't know that brush Jul 2013 #21

so what if he was a renter? TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #23

His actions just killed the property values of everyone else in the neighborhood. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #33

He can't walk away until the lease is up TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #73

I don't disagree Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #98

I apologize if it came across that way ecstatic Jul 2013 #38

his liability is greater as a renter TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #85

I wasn't disparaging renters ecstatic Jul 2013 #95

All gun nuts are potential Zimmermans. Address that problem first. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #10

Agree. It's the people, not the guns. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #15

EGGactly!!! Excellent point nt Duckwraps Jul 2013 #17

But keeping guns out of the hands of the nuts Just Saying Jul 2013 #80

Yes, and we have dropped the ball on that one. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #87

Agree 100% n/t Just Saying Jul 2013 #108

From what I've gathered Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #12

Not so fast Major Nikon Jul 2013 #22

In that case Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #41

Word on the street is they have already paid a million Major Nikon Jul 2013 #45

Homeowners need to attend their annual meetings, DURHAM D Jul 2013 #18

Isn't there a way to look into HappyMe Jul 2013 #24

Absolutely! And not just for issues like Zimmerman. avebury Jul 2013 #27

I would also wonder about how much HappyMe Jul 2013 #29

I was watching one of the OKC City Counsel meetings one day. avebury Jul 2013 #37

That's awful. HappyMe Jul 2013 #40

Totally. avebury Jul 2013 #43

That was not an HOA. DURHAM D Jul 2013 #56

Perfect example, NM_Birder Jul 2013 #115

Yes. Before making an offer - DURHAM D Jul 2013 #32

Good to know. HappyMe Jul 2013 #35

And if you buy, attend the annual meetings every year. avebury Jul 2013 #42

Good information! Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #122

So you're saying that had Zimmy executed such a document, the HOA would have no liability flvegan Jul 2013 #25

I think what you need is to know exactly what avebury Jul 2013 #30

I agree. Especially here in Florida. flvegan Jul 2013 #39

I think the HOA should be held liable. HappyMe Jul 2013 #31

I agree that if flvegan Jul 2013 #44

If he identified himself as their 'watch', HappyMe Jul 2013 #49

The Board repeatedly identified Zimmerman as their watch guy. DURHAM D Jul 2013 #58

Well, they may be screwed. HappyMe Jul 2013 #59

I think that's pipi_k Jul 2013 #36

There's no need for the watch people HappyMe Jul 2013 #46

Agree. If they want armed security they should pay for it. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #50

How do they watch? pipi_k Jul 2013 #65

They're not supposed pipi_k Jul 2013 #61

If it's dark, and somebody is following me, HappyMe Jul 2013 #64

Well, that was my point... pipi_k Jul 2013 #66

The "watch" people don't need that. HappyMe Jul 2013 #70

I think THIS is where mental health is most relevant loyalsister Jul 2013 #51

It's only a "watch". HappyMe Jul 2013 #54

I'm talking about very basic questions... loyalsister Jul 2013 #74

Yeesh. HappyMe Jul 2013 #77

I don't think you understand how those inventories work loyalsister Jul 2013 #92

It sounds like too much crap to go through HappyMe Jul 2013 #93

Do you think this is the first time someone inclined to kill loyalsister Jul 2013 #105

reinterpret the 2nd and end the travesty of individuals not law enforcement having guns nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #53

Good luck with that idea. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #121

I live across the street from a neighborhood park. gordianot Jul 2013 #67

you had a six year old intruder? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #104

I think he was the only member Nevernose Jul 2013 #71

Was Kohl's in his development too? HockeyMom Jul 2013 #82

Oh yes. HappyMe Jul 2013 #86

I would say that the HOA should be a co defendent gopiscrap Jul 2013 #83

The HOA has already settled with the family avebury Jul 2013 #97

thank you gopiscrap Jul 2013 #99

Wow. That is surprising Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #100

Maybe that thought it would cost them more if avebury Jul 2013 #101

It isn't up to the defendents to set the timing of the suit though. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #102

All boils down to the fact the HomeOwners wanted something for nothing Tippy Jul 2013 #84

Make sure the desired anti-gun policies are clearly written in the CCRs. Trillo Jul 2013 #96

Home owners associations ARE liable... 99Forever Jul 2013 #130