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zeemike

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145. The phrase I know

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:26 PM

Jul 2013

Not the acronym.
I told you my story, you can believe it or not...I suspect not, because you are looking for something to discredit me with...and anything will do,
Perhaps I lurked until 02, I don't remember...but I remember clearly coming here on day one.

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Sliding into the prototypical "Ugly American" mindset [View all] cali Jul 2013 OP

Would that so-called Democrats would be a bit less nasty to their own President.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #1

Not something I'm engaging in. I criticize policies and focus on them cali Jul 2013 #3

It's responsive--it's the other side of that coin. MADem Jul 2013 #16

fine. I have no problem condemning comments that degrade the President. cali Jul 2013 #23

I don't play silly tit for tat games, I simply point out hypocrisies. MADem Jul 2013 #29

Bullshit. zeemike Jul 2013 #38

+1 and cali Jul 2013 #45

Someone actually said that and MuseRider Jul 2013 #82

Please Don't! cali Jul 2013 #86

I say this a lot anymore MuseRider Jul 2013 #95

The only thing that has changed is that the "mods" aren't cleaning up the mess and making MADem Jul 2013 #115

Well, let's see.... MADem Jul 2013 #72

right. hip hip hooray for ugly comments. fuck south america. this is cali Jul 2013 #89

Way to completely miss the point I was advancing. MADem Jul 2013 #121

it is YOU who misses CALI's point. AmBlue Jul 2013 #137

Oh please. Dial it down five notches. No plane was forced down. MADem Jul 2013 #141

Okay... you go on gushing about our emperor's fine suit of silk. AmBlue Jul 2013 #144

Listen to you, talking about "our emperor" on a Democratic message board! MADem Jul 2013 #147

Ever heard of an analogy? AmBlue Jul 2013 #152

Yes, good idea--no need to let anything that doesn't match your world view disturb your MADem Jul 2013 #153

Well to paraphrase a quote of a famous person zeemike Jul 2013 #90

Look, I'm not the one calling anyone a tin pot dictator, even though there MADem Jul 2013 #93

Well you do realize that Morales and Chavez were both elected in a democratic election don;t you? zeemike Jul 2013 #96

I realize that Chavez changed the rules to retain power, and Morales did as well. MADem Jul 2013 #99

You mean like the GOP changed the rules zeemike Jul 2013 #104

Oh, the "they did it too" excuse? Really? And you go back over MADem Jul 2013 #107

That was not my point at all. zeemike Jul 2013 #119

Whenever it's changed to give the SAME GUY continued power, I look askance. MADem Jul 2013 #123

I don't know what TMI is zeemike Jul 2013 #129

Too much information. It's a rather standard phrase. MADem Jul 2013 #142

The phrase I know zeemike Jul 2013 #145

No one is trying to discredit you. MADem Jul 2013 #146

Well I have never been given the third degree about it before zeemike Jul 2013 #149

It's not the third degree--it's simply a logical question which arose from your own assertions. nt MADem Jul 2013 #150

Which you found suspicious zeemike Jul 2013 #151

No--I simply noted that your assertion(s) didn't match your join date. MADem Jul 2013 #154

All facts that you care about. zeemike Jul 2013 #155

Does the fact that he doesn't have a Congress that will pass the laws he'd like to implement matter MADem Jul 2013 #157

Yes those facts matter to me zeemike Jul 2013 #158

+1 AmBlue Jul 2013 #138

It would be helpful in furthering the discussion on this site dgibby Jul 2013 #118

Yes, and it would also be nice if people could disagree "honestly" without using personal MADem Jul 2013 #124

Why do you even bother?? THESE PEOPLE SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE Number23 Jul 2013 #134

Yes indeed. MADem Jul 2013 #156

"our first black POTUS" magellan Jul 2013 #106

Not make exceptions--just give him the same damn consideration. MADem Jul 2013 #108

I hold him to the same standards I hold any president. magellan Jul 2013 #110

If the shoe does not fit you, don't cram it on your foot and then pout at me about it. MADem Jul 2013 #111

Just reading through this thread, as I do before deciding to comment magellan Jul 2013 #112

That struck me too. Stands out like a sore thumb. n/t dgibby Jul 2013 #113

Just as it stands out like a sore thumb when he's treated differently by posters here. nt MADem Jul 2013 #127

I see distress over Pres. Obama's POLICIES, not the person Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #133

Really, I haven't seen anyone trying to bring some facts to this conversation denigrating the Cleita Jul 2013 #47

Give us this day our daily bread--when does a week go by that someone isn't MADem Jul 2013 #101

If that's what is happening to you maybe you need to update your ignore list. Cleita Jul 2013 #128

I don't do ignore. I just don't see the point of it. MADem Jul 2013 #148

It's good to see you are condemning that kind of ugliness, which I'm sure you are sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #163

Morales is loving the publicity--can't you tell? This is the best thing that ever could have MADem Jul 2013 #166

You didn't answer the question, but so be it, I will draw my own conclusions. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #168

It's good to see you are condemning that kind of ugliness, which I'm sure you are sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #163

When criticism of the issue is interpreted as criticism of the person Pholus Jul 2013 #5

When criticism of the person gets denigrating and insulting, issues get pushed to the background. MADem Jul 2013 #14

Get thee hence to the rest of DU sibelian Jul 2013 #24

I cannot improve on this. Pholus Jul 2013 #28

+1 cali Jul 2013 #31

Young padawan...? MADem Jul 2013 #32

Psssst....some kids just walked on your lawn while you were busy hating on Harry Potter. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #135

I don't "hate" Harry Potter one bit. MADem Jul 2013 #140

I'm 44 and looking in both directions DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #143

Well, I'm considerably older than you. You could be my kid. MADem Jul 2013 #180

+1 LWolf Jul 2013 #37

Well said and exactly Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #39

+1 truebluegreen Jul 2013 #41

But it was okay to insult and denigrate Bush, right? kurtzapril4 Jul 2013 #43

Well that's where American Exceptualizm steps in ...but we're not going to start denigrating Satan! L0oniX Jul 2013 #56

Are you unclear as to the TOS of this website? MADem Jul 2013 #91

Not. At. All. Pholus Jul 2013 #102

You're trying to create a false construct, that suggests that anyone who MADem Jul 2013 #109

No different than the "Snowden, Snowden, Snowden" construct. Pholus Jul 2013 #114

Snowden's girlfriend is a key to the man. MADem Jul 2013 #126

Repeat: the man is not relevant. Pholus Jul 2013 #132

He's entirely relevant. You are ready and willing to believe everything he says, without evidence. MADem Jul 2013 #139

And you are conflating Pholus Jul 2013 #159

No, I'm not. MADem Jul 2013 #160

yes you are Pholus Jul 2013 #161

Well, we can play that game all day, but I'll just refer you back to my last post. nt MADem Jul 2013 #162

cool we are done. post 159 has the main point. Pholus Jul 2013 #169

"Unamerican" secrets-BAD. "Unrussian" secrets, or "Unchinese" secrets--good? MADem Jul 2013 #172

Hey the only reason national dragnets are secrets Pholus Jul 2013 #174

Whatever that word salad means..."LOL" ... nt MADem Jul 2013 #181

Huh. Seemed simple enough. But reading standards ARE in decline. Pholus Jul 2013 #191

Well, that's not true at all. MADem Jul 2013 #192

You may find this difficult to believe, dgibby Jul 2013 #120

How nice for you and those like you. Perhaps you can exhort the Hate Obama First Club to MADem Jul 2013 #122

Are you unclear about the Democratic Party's promises to those who voted for them? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #170

You can't do shit without Congress. I guess that's a concept that is tough for you to grasp? MADem Jul 2013 #171

Why are you always so angry? And so very wrong? Anger blinds people. It makes them sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #175

Check your mirror. I am not angry. I'm very mellow, in fact. Quite content, today, especially. MADem Jul 2013 #178

Ooooh, 'it's noticed'. Really, by whom? The NSA? Shouldn't they be looking for sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #185

By whom? By ME. MADem Jul 2013 #186

Again you are wrong . I am not only willing to admit my 'bias' as you call it, I am sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #187

Again, you don't understand that CONGRESS gatekeeps who gets into the Cabinet, apparently. MADem Jul 2013 #189

"Issues get pushed to the background" AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #83

I think it might be on you.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #88

There are those that would be nasty, but the problem is that those defending the Pres rhett o rick Jul 2013 #33

Sort of like the disruptors running around calling anyone who has a problem MADem Jul 2013 #87

Whistle-blower character assassinations are typical authoritarian behavior. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #92

Because.... you say so? MADem Jul 2013 #94

"Valid critique"? I might agree that you might provide valid critiques but most of what I have rhett o rick Jul 2013 #98

You 'don't care' that Snowden hasn't proven his case. It sounds good, so that's MADem Jul 2013 #105

It is no longer Snowden's job to "prove" anything. I want pres Obama to prove that he is looking rhett o rick Jul 2013 #130

You want simple answers to complex issues, and you aren't going to get them. MADem Jul 2013 #131

First post, thread is disrupted by another irrelevant Obama comment. Everything is about Obama. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #165

Only if you think the leader of all Americans--including the ugly ones named in the OP, MADem Jul 2013 #167

Thanks for validating my point. No. It is not about Obama. Zorra Jul 2013 #173

Not sure how I "validated" your "point." I simply pointed out that Obama is the President of all MADem Jul 2013 #176

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm outta here, this is Zorra Jul 2013 #184

The President ... or his policies? RC Jul 2013 #177

Give him the Congress, and he'll give you the policies. MADem Jul 2013 #179

Where is Obama's bully pulpit? RC Jul 2013 #182

Because they can get CONFIRMED, that's why. MADem Jul 2013 #183

Right? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #188

Day-um....! nt MADem Jul 2013 #190

And it's possible for John Kerry to say "backyard" without being just another gringo imperialist BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #2

Actually, it's really not Scootaloo Jul 2013 #4

Very true - there's a lot of difference between "our neighborhood" and "our backyard" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #7

you said it far better than I did. that's exactly it. cali Jul 2013 #8

That's absurd. ProSense Jul 2013 #17

Context, Pro, context. cali Jul 2013 #20

No ProSense Jul 2013 #22

lol. my but that's as lame as could possibly be in the face cali Jul 2013 #25

You know, ProSense Jul 2013 #26

no, just stating the obvious. As I said, I posted evidence and you did not, old Pro. cali Jul 2013 #30

You don't really want to start a link war do ya? L0oniX Jul 2013 #58

Cali is right Prosense. iemitsu Jul 2013 #57

Now you've done it. You are not of the body! L0oniX Jul 2013 #61

:) I'm not sure that this phantom is iemitsu Jul 2013 #63

Absolute nonsense. ProSense Jul 2013 #78

good reframe! good job! nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #103

You're putting it on display with this post, I'm afraid Scootaloo Jul 2013 #116

You probably haven't noticed but in diplomatic circles, words are chosen very carefully. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #136

Most Americans are in blissful ignorance of what our country has become. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #34

+1 zeemike Jul 2013 #44

You forgot to mention the depleted uranium that we iemitsu Jul 2013 #59

Yes, that's true. Quite a legacy. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #84

+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #64

He could have chosen his words more carefully, no? cali Jul 2013 #6

It was a faux pas, it shouldn't be a death sentence for Kerry in the region BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #10

I agree with that. I don't think there was any malicious intent cali Jul 2013 #13

I actually agree with you on this one. arely staircase Jul 2013 #27

both a phrase and a pov cali Jul 2013 #35

agreed. I actually pointed the arrogance of the phrase out to a friend of mine years ago arely staircase Jul 2013 #36

Get familiar with the Monroe Doctrine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #60

And I don't expect CT's to think clearly about much BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #62

It is a conspiracy theory to speak of the Monroe doctrine? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #65

Oh I know, you grew up down there and know the darker meaning of everything BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #68

You are proud of your ignorance Sir nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #70

When it comes to sovereign nations treestar Jul 2013 #76

Perhaps the reason there are no countries willing to take Snowden dgibby Jul 2013 #125

Yeah. ananda Jul 2013 #9

I love you first thing in the morning Cali Thank you. Catherina Jul 2013 #11

right back at you, my friend cali Jul 2013 #15

Thanks to both of you. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #55

There was a post yesterday that dropped as low as making comments about Morales' hairstyle. idwiyo Jul 2013 #12

They have nothing to give but the ROFL emoticon. That's their total rhett o rick Jul 2013 #48

I just had a look at the thread Pic Of The Moment: Restore The Fourth, amusing to see what usernames idwiyo Jul 2013 #51

The emoticon in place of content does define them, and that ROFL emoticon is Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #52

and another slimy post just now doing that and worse. cali Jul 2013 #66

Can you please PM me a link to that? idwiyo Jul 2013 #97

did someone really say that about the cyst? Enrique Jul 2013 #18

yes. cali Jul 2013 #21

Could you please post the jury comments? QC Jul 2013 #40

they weren't. they were almost all posted without comment, but here: cali Jul 2013 #50

that's the kind of post I'm glad is allowed to stand Enrique Jul 2013 #53

I'm not. you can always hit 'show post' cali Jul 2013 #54

You can still see that douchebag reply. It's been left intact. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2013 #42

k/r marmar Jul 2013 #19

Yes but it is a cyst of our own making. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #46

I don't know enough about HappyMe Jul 2013 #49

first ban all negative name calling of our president on DU Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #67

Won't call him names nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #69

Bully is a name. And he has been called that on here Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #71

Don't read foreign press. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #74

do editorial pages inform? Or try to persuade? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #75

Well even straight reporting is all but nice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #80

Bully? You actually think calling the President a bully should be cali Jul 2013 #77

no. I said such name calling should be banned--not the poster Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #79

so, you're saying that a post calling the President a bully should be hidden? cali Jul 2013 #85

This is true treestar Jul 2013 #81

could you please link to some of these examples of negative name calling? cali Jul 2013 #73

You cannot expect much from trolls imo. Rex Jul 2013 #100

Name the person/thing du jour that's "making Obama look bad" magellan Jul 2013 #117