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Nevernose

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23. Originally Z denied it was his scream

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 12:34 AM

Jul 2013

It wasn't until later, when he'd talked to his judge-father and his lawyer that he realized that to prove self-defense it would have to be his own scream.

It was either a grown man screaming like a boy, or an actual boy. My money is on the actual boy who was killed being the one screaming like a boy afraid for his life.

But that probably makes me a gun-grabbing black racist, right? At least according to a vocal minority on the Internet, aided by Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

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Scream, Zimmerman, Scream! [View all] gort Jul 2013 OP

I suspect he would have no problem squealing. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #1

Cuz that would make it very clear that it southerncrone Jul 2013 #2

I think the OP's "Gee" signaled sarcasm. :-) WinkyDink Jul 2013 #11

I am usually sarcastic. :) gort Jul 2013 #17

I recognized that. southerncrone Jul 2013 #21

i was actually wondering about this also, the scream sounds like a younger voice to me JI7 Jul 2013 #3

That is where I am at gort Jul 2013 #5

I agree with all your other points, but MH1 Jul 2013 #10

Obviously it was NOT Zimmy's scream. But a scream of someone who was seconds from dying. graham4anything Jul 2013 #4

"if he doesn't testify, the jury will ask, why didn't he testify." = A point they will explicitly WinkyDink Jul 2013 #12

but I bet every jury does and this one will. I myself rooting for guilty, max sentence, no parole. graham4anything Jul 2013 #13

Exactly correct customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #15

the prosecution won't make anything out of it. but they won't have to. magical thyme Jul 2013 #61

But they will. nt brush Jul 2013 #36

I am 99.9% sure they won't put him on the stand davidpdx Jul 2013 #6

He couldn't do it, even if someone showed up to hold a gun on him while he tried. Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #7

Well, we all now know BellaKos Jul 2013 #8

It depends on who is murdered. yardwork Jul 2013 #42

How do you come to that conclusion? pintobean Jul 2013 #43

A seventeen year old is shot dead in his own apartment complex and the police don't even try to find yardwork Jul 2013 #44

It wasn't his own apartment complex. pintobean Jul 2013 #45

Also ... Caylee Anthony nt BellaKos Jul 2013 #47

I've had that same thought John2 Jul 2013 #9

I see no need to put him on the stand Duckwraps Jul 2013 #14

Can someone help me out? Shrek Jul 2013 #16

I guess because Zimmerman was fighting for his life he was screaming. lumpy Jul 2013 #20

Scream Significance ker0412 Jul 2013 #24

Z knbew he had a gun, Martin did not have a gun, now which one would one conclude was scared Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #51

If the scream doesn't fit, you must not acquit! nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #18

R#7 & K for, excellent point. That STOLID DOLT is not capable of the high pitched scream besides UTUSN Jul 2013 #19

Wouldnt make any difference ker0412 Jul 2013 #22

Originally Z denied it was his scream Nevernose Jul 2013 #23

NO NO NO!!! ker0412 Jul 2013 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #26

When he spoke to the police Just Saying Jul 2013 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #28

How you took it doesn't mean that's how he meant it. Just Saying Jul 2013 #31

This kinda disputes the idea that GZ hasn't changed his story. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #50

yeah, and that is NOT him saying it was not him hfojvt Jul 2013 #56

Again that's YOUR interpretation of what he said. Just Saying Jul 2013 #62

no, that is an actual fact hfojvt Jul 2013 #64

No your opinion about what someone said Just Saying Jul 2013 #65

I know what opinions are hfojvt Jul 2013 #66

Okay let's review. Just Saying Jul 2013 #67

In his initial interview Nevernose Jul 2013 #32

Nah, it wasn't a denial. Just an expression of surprise. Vattel Jul 2013 #34

You still haven't addressed what Z said Nevernose Jul 2013 #37

all he said was hfojvt Jul 2013 #57

He never denied it. It's just another invented "story change" Azathoth Jul 2013 #33

He said on the tape "that doesn't sound like me." brush Jul 2013 #38

It doesn't sound like a denial as far as the English language is concerned Azathoth Jul 2013 #40

Sounds like someone's in denial. nt brush Jul 2013 #41

You're right. Clearly the English language is in denial n/t Azathoth Jul 2013 #48

Oh please, now come on. gollygee Jul 2013 #49

No, that's reading into it Azathoth Jul 2013 #54

Okay. If you say so. nt brush Jul 2013 #59

The discussion of the Zimmerman trial is full of interesting linguistic claims. Vattel Jul 2013 #60

Wouldn't it need to be a recording, with similar equipment used on the day of Trayvon's death? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #29

The chair! mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #30

It's God will that he won't testify. reusrename Jul 2013 #35

Exactamundo! nt brush Jul 2013 #39

I was an eye witness when a co-worker was murdered (shot to death) by her husband. Grammy23 Jul 2013 #46

I know of what you speak. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #52

The comment about the strain on the vocal cords is very significant - hedgehog Jul 2013 #53

Evgen though you're kidding... wercal Jul 2013 #55

I think it would be pointless to have Zimmerman try to replicate what he says were his screams..... Grammy23 Jul 2013 #58

Thank you for that gort Jul 2013 #63