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In reply to the discussion: I am getting the odd sense that some don't like Snowden because he made the establishment look bad [View all]marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and it will be for the next few years. But there are a lot of people running around who'd rather see us not talking about it--maybe you are one of those?
I'm supporting Democrats who deal constructively and directly with the NSA issue from now on. It's definitely a deal breaker. If they follow the hard line on this and then they are either too stupid about the implications, or they really don't have the people's interests in mind--and those Dems are not worth supporting. Because this is about basic rights under the constitution.
That goes for Hillary, Biden and whoever else runs for president in the future (leaving Obama out of this--unless he suddenly turns around and surprises us all). I will be looking for candidates to support among those who have taken a strong stand against government surveillance.
Let DU be what it is. A lot of people here have an understanding about how this kind of data-mining erodes the rights and freedoms this country used to stand for. And how the opportunity for massive electronic intelligence gathering works to keep us all under a government microscope. It is unprecedented. There are serious dangers inherent in it. This is a major watershed moment for this country. Maybe if you don't try to tune out this discussion you could initiate a profitable discussion about what "step two" should look like.
Whining and complaining that "there's too much talk about this topic" seems intended to stifle the conversation. We've seen it around here before, when the going gets rough. Nothing new.
There's always the option to return to the Kardashians, (the Kardashians being whatever your favorite mindless diversion is).