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28. I love your response~

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:59 PM

Jul 2013

Well, that's different. I can totally.. hey wait a minute!

That's from 2006! when Bush was illegally wiretapping without warrants.

Excellent, jazzimov!

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I'll admit it - I'm tired. [View all] jazzimov Jul 2013 OP

YUP Skittles Jul 2013 #1

Yep RobinA Jul 2013 #125

I knew someone would get it Skittles Jul 2013 #131

some facts The Straight Story Jul 2013 #2

Uh, this is pure speculation. jazzimov Jul 2013 #10

Amazing, isn't it? randome Jul 2013 #14

It is from a congressional hearing. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #30

A little more: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #72

It all makes sense now mick063 Jul 2013 #13

You seriously have no idea how ubiquitous the Internet is now to ALL manner of things? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #81

Wars will occur over food, water, power mongering, religion, mick063 Jul 2013 #94

They want and need you to be scared nolabels Jul 2013 #99

DING! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #80

Hyperbole and speculation has destroyed any meaningful debate on this subject JaneyVee Jul 2013 #3

FISA: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #4

Well, that's different. I can totally.. hey wait a minute! jazzimov Jul 2013 #12

That was also the year when Congress rushed to save him from prosecution by weakening sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #24

indeed, you have to wonder how these people will react stupidicus Jul 2013 #31

I've seen it times and again. Amonester Jul 2013 #27

I love your response~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #28

And then, Congress rushed to pass one of the most dispised Amendments sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #48

+10 RC Jul 2013 #82

That history was needed... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #88

My fav is how they blast Obama supporters as blind followers and hero worshippers Yavin4 Jul 2013 #5

MisterRogers: can you say "hypocrite"? jazzimov Jul 2013 #19

What is your opinion of whistle blower Russ Tice who claims Senator Obama think Jul 2013 #6

That's the difference, illegal vs. legal. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #7

Yes, retroactive immunity protects anyone from being prosecuted. This broke 3 weeks ago think Jul 2013 #47

Talk is cheap. Anyone can say shit. Where is the evidence? randome Jul 2013 #15

Before 2008, or after? jazzimov Jul 2013 #23

So the whistle blower who exposed Bush's wiretapping is now a UFO nut? think Jul 2013 #44

not lame G_j Jul 2013 #113

That would seem to be the case.... /nt think Jul 2013 #117

THANK YOU! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #86

I firmly opposed illegal wiretapping under Bush jazzimov Jul 2013 #22

Insulting? This whistle blower just made this information public 3 weeks ago think Jul 2013 #37

And what was he talking about? jazzimov Jul 2013 #53

Why did he wait? Ever hear of gag orders and threats of jail? think Jul 2013 #71

Something somebody SAYS are not FACTS! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #87

If you would READ. I posted that Russ wanted to testify and congress couldn't even hear him think Jul 2013 #89

Testifying...is still not proof! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #90

He didn't get to testify so congress never investigated what they didn't know. think Jul 2013 #93

What FACTS??? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #116

And you apparently don't understand what a gag order is and what testifying before congress think Jul 2013 #119

this is still a subject that NEEDS physical evidence... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #121

Let him testify without a gag so there can be an inquiry into his claims. think Jul 2013 #123

So you are saying he wanted to lie, under oath, to congress? RC Jul 2013 #110

You think that's never happened before? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #118

again you slander the word of a known whistle blower who exposed major crimes think Jul 2013 #122

Apparently he doesn't care about responding to the points you made think Jul 2013 #127

so how did Occupy get put down so quickly and efficiently? liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #43

I don't know, for the same reason it took them so long in the first place? jazzimov Jul 2013 #56

No leadership? zappaman Jul 2013 #62

if you think that is who Occupy is you have been watching too much FOX news. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #68

Never watch Fox news. zappaman Jul 2013 #79

Are you putting me on? You should see this: HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #8

I'm on dial-up so i didn't watch the video, But judging from your comments jazzimov Jul 2013 #16

You caught my drift perfectly! Hope you get a chance to watch HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #20

Thanks! I used to have the VHS jazzimov Jul 2013 #26

the brand was raleigh, but i doubt john lennon smoked them. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #106

I'm still waiting CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #9

And that's just it.... jazzimov Jul 2013 #18

Maybe outside of this forum you can get rational discussion, but CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #21

Applause! COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #83

Agree with the crowd or be damned! freshwest Jul 2013 #97

And my point is, if the dishonest Obama accusers here were to be successfull in reducing midterms Amonester Jul 2013 #32

Let us assume you are entirely correct. mick063 Jul 2013 #40

Kind of hinges on the meaning of the word spying zeemike Jul 2013 #39

Glad you're not going anywhere, jazz! Cha Jul 2013 #11

Thanks, CHA! jazzimov Jul 2013 #17

You authoritarian totalitarian griefer! treestar Jul 2013 #25

You Obama fanboy! You must be a member jazzimov Jul 2013 #36

K&R! nt sheshe2 Jul 2013 #29

That's why I now have all the folks who behave that way on ignore stevenleser Jul 2013 #33

I've often thought of using the Ignore function, jazzimov Jul 2013 #42

I'm right there with you, jazzimov. I just got attacked for asking for a supporting link. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #34

I have corrected that gross injustice Union Scribe Jul 2013 #69

No you haven't. You have added to it by following me to that thread. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #92

Hopefully this NY Times op-ed will help to elucidate the problem MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #35

That's a vry interesting article, and I am jazzimov Jul 2013 #45

Three questions: MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #52

Apples to oranges. jazzimov Jul 2013 #57

Let's start with #1. Why is that a straw man argument? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #60

There's a phenomenon where people Union Scribe Jul 2013 #77

+1 think Jul 2013 #126

*what* straw man? seriously, i would like to hear your reasoning. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #103

I don't think an answer is in our future... nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #128

"If he's telling the truth" Amonester Jul 2013 #64

I have no substantial evidence that he's lying, while MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #66

I have no substantial evidence that he is NOT lying, while Amonester Jul 2013 #73

Access to the information does not require warrants muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #105

That just offers opinion and a shout out to Rand Paul. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #51

The OP claimed that there's no evidence MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #55

I am sticking to the topic. And what you offered is not evidence. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #61

No, you're bringing up a different point. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #63

No, but you have certainly made the OP's point. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #67

If the OP's point was that we should be allowed to change topics MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #74

No, but you are again substantiating the OP. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #91

Some of the things that Snowden has said are contradicted by the documents he released. Galraedia Jul 2013 #38

Agreed, although some of those misleading statements jazzimov Jul 2013 #46

I am tired of people just assuming our government is trustworthy and would never liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #41

No one ever said that to my knowledge. jazzimov Jul 2013 #50

Not that I don't love random Capitalization Union Scribe Jul 2013 #58

Who are those people? I have not seen any DU posts that say that. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #59

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #111

wow This blew the lid off a whole bunch of things! oldandhappy Jul 2013 #49

You'll be much happier over here... Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #54

I think I illustrated the BS you are talking about in this sample dialogue in the BOG stevenleser Jul 2013 #65

LOL. That was brilliant. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #95

I think we are all tired of speculation but it usually enters into all discussions. lumpy Jul 2013 #70

I'm tired as well that we never had a real debate on our HC system when ... slipslidingaway Jul 2013 #75

exactly. Same goes for education and many other issues. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #76

The problem is many in the world cannot fathom other people having intelligence and a mind...... nolabels Jul 2013 #100

Section 215, collecting meta data The Straight Story Jul 2013 #78

Thank you for posting the law. If more COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #84

or maybe we will fight to repeal the law. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #85

That's always an option. But my point is that the COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #120

From a press conference The Straight Story Jul 2013 #96

I'm tired of people pretending that they have a monopoly on facts. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #98

When I start a new thread in GD I get this message burnodo Jul 2013 #101

At one time DU members would not tolerate lies liberal N proud Jul 2013 #102

And I'm tired of the Authoritarian Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #104

+1 HiPointDem Jul 2013 #107

Hear, hear! Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #112

This is the post of the thread. Apophis Jul 2013 #114

What sources do you consider factual? Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #108

Being nice is tiring Mosaic Jul 2013 #109

You are tired because you are wrong. bemildred Jul 2013 #115

OP isn't wrong, but 99% of media are, and joining in the bash is good times. ucrdem Jul 2013 #130

Facts are scarce in today's politics... polichick Jul 2013 #124

There are plenty of RW activists here too. Scuba Jul 2013 #129